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my thoughts too, looks like cheap budget Jamo speaker, awful design...
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Arendal 1528 high end speakers
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Anyone else suspicious about the delays in reviews?
Gene said he got the bookshelf and James Larson got the monitor back in early December and we still don't have a review.
I'm starting to think something doesn't look like the factory promised on the measurements and there is a holdup in publishing data...
Gene said he got the bookshelf and James Larson got the monitor back in early December and we still don't have a review.
I'm starting to think something doesn't look like the factory promised on the measurements and there is a holdup in publishing data...
So expensive especially because they sell direct!
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SoundStageNetwork.com | SoundStage.com - NRC Measurements: Arendal Sound 1528 Tower 8
Measurements and a review. Looks pretty close to what Arendal has on their site. Give or take a few DB.
I think remember @Erin also has a pair for reviewing...
If that were the case, what reasons would justify a delay?
https://www.hifitest.de/test/lautsprecher-stereo/arendal-1528-monitor-8-23559
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Because the upstanding reviewers go back to OEM to discuss results that don't look good. None of the big measurement teams have said a word about the smaller sized versions in weeks. Erin dropped a note from his live- stream and was clearly frustrated with the process, while opening up to him not getting a pair as "my fault".If that were the case, what reasons would justify a delay?
https://www.hifitest.de/test/lautsprecher-stereo/arendal-1528-monitor-8-23559
Anyway, Gene and crew were ecstatic about reviewing these for weeks, and have since released several videos, comments and updates with no mention of the units they said they were reviewing.
At this point, months after release, we have no objective data points for bookshelves, center channel, monitor, or the on-wall; 4/5 releases and the tower didn't match stated in specs in several ways.
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I don't think we are in such a bad shape. There have been measurements for towers and bookshelves, admittedly not for the rest - but not following that as not my interest. I share the sentiment of more data and less marketing thought.
It is clear that these speakers (towers and bookshelves) can go loud and relatively free of significant distortion. How exactly they compare to other speakers is still not entirely clear as measurements are limited. Bookshelves seem to be pretty good for the size though.
As for the towers, they also seem to be pretty good, but perhaps not reaching fully out to full range towers (17hz in room response was never really put in any context), so if that is what people are looking for, perhaps too early to pull the trigger. But then there are very few full range towers and by design this one seems to belong into almost full range but not quite. That is a crowded space as I mentioned several times.
It is clear that these speakers (towers and bookshelves) can go loud and relatively free of significant distortion. How exactly they compare to other speakers is still not entirely clear as measurements are limited. Bookshelves seem to be pretty good for the size though.
As for the towers, they also seem to be pretty good, but perhaps not reaching fully out to full range towers (17hz in room response was never really put in any context), so if that is what people are looking for, perhaps too early to pull the trigger. But then there are very few full range towers and by design this one seems to belong into almost full range but not quite. That is a crowded space as I mentioned several times.
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What are the different colors for? Angles perhaps?If that were the case, what reasons would justify a delay?
https://www.hifitest.de/test/lautsprecher-stereo/arendal-1528-monitor-8-23559
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Yes, usually such in this magazine are for 0°,15° and 30° horizontally, sometimes they also include a 45° one.
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I am not a costumer of Arendal and have elected to go with som Perlisten S7t but am wondering why many are asking for reviews of their entire 1528 product line? What speaker company and speaker line has EVERY offering reviewed for both objective and subjective feedback? Is it possible we are being a little too demanding of Arendal here? Erin from Erin's Audio Corner and Gene and James from Audioholics have peer reviewed Jay Iyagi's measurements and found them credible (like it or not), and Soundstage put the towers in the NRC chamber. I personally prefer ASR user opinions regarding size, value, and livability vice who is "credible" or not. The vitriol people have toward reviewers amazes me. I for one, am so happy that many do this in their spare time and am thankful for any information even if it's a good picture of new equipment I'm interested in. I guess what I am saying is just because something has been marketed as much as the 1528 line doesn't automatically mean everyone who touches it is "in on it". This isn't the Kardashians. My $.02 anyway.
I'm only expecting the reviews because those reviewers said we should expect them.
We are renovating our home and my receiver is on the fritz. I'm also eyeing up new speakers so I was very much looking forward to the bookshelf review Gene said would be coming six weeks ago.
I am in no way stating Arendal owes me objective reviewer measurement data.
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I didn't think you were. (There are many others on other social media platforms speculating and accusing reviewers of unethical behavior. Even Amir on ASR has communicated with manufacturers if something is found during his independent testing.) I would bet that during testing, something didn't look quite as advertised and they shared the data with Arendal. It could be any number of things since I assume what they received were pre-production units by all accounts. I for one, won't knock any reviewer for testing pre-production units as long as it's somewhere in their writeup. I'm certain as these start shipping, you're going to see a LOT of reviews from many of the usual reviewers. I don't think Arendal is so large they can shovel crap to everyone and ignore a growing customer base. Could be wrong... Who knows.
Hey all,
A bit of a novice question which might be dificult to answer, hence me asking it: in what way will you notice the higher quality of these compared to say the 1723s series? What I understand is that they are more liniar, less distortion and better vertical direction. But what does that mean in the real world? And will the diff be big?
I run 1723s monitors with the 1s subwoofer in a semi treated family room and really love the sound. Will moving to the bookshelf 8 be a big step?
Thanks
A bit of a novice question which might be dificult to answer, hence me asking it: in what way will you notice the higher quality of these compared to say the 1723s series? What I understand is that they are more liniar, less distortion and better vertical direction. But what does that mean in the real world? And will the diff be big?
I run 1723s monitors with the 1s subwoofer in a semi treated family room and really love the sound. Will moving to the bookshelf 8 be a big step?
Thanks
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Check out Erin's Audio Corner channel on Youtube:
It's a LOT to get but he gives some of the best explanations while equating the measurements to "sound quality/preference" I've seen.
Thanks for that. I know him and indeed have seen these video's. It gives a good overview of what a good/perfect measurement looks like, having said that: I would like some perspective on what that means in the real world. The 1723s series does well in many aspects. [flat, horizontal good, good distortion, good compression] Only the vertical is not that good.
A speaker that does everything right when it comes to measurments is for instance the KEF reference 1. Best in class distortion, flat response, vertical and horizontal very good.
Will this make a big difference?
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Email Matt Poes at Poes acoustics. He sells KEF and the Reference 5 was something I was interested in. Don't quote me but the KEF didn't have the dynamic range of say a Perlisten and likely, the 1528 Tower. Cleaner response but lacked that dynamic "wow" that the others provide in sheer volume. I think the KEF Reference line are the best looking speakers around. For the smaller speakers like the 1, s4b, and 1528 Bookshelf 8, I would think for not much more size, the 1528 Monitor 8 is a happy compromise in size and power. But won't know for sure how "improved" they are over the 1723 line until James Larson finishes his review. Totally different designs between MTM and TMW etc.
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I guess it depends on use. If you have one row of seats or a main listening position, the 1723 are probably fine. If you have multiple rows or need 20 or more degrees of "good" vertical dispersion, then I can see where you might have problems with certain things like dialogue audibility or breakup at the crossover frequency and inconsistent "sound" due to lobing inherent to MTM designs. Your 1723s measure really good for the vast majority of use applications. I know I'd be hard pressed to replace them for the new design without measurements from James, Erin, Amir etc.
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