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Arendal 1528 high end speakers

You're arguing that there is no compelling reason for you (or any data driven buyer) to buy the Arendal 1528s over another model. We can all understand that.

But then you're making a reasoning leap implying that because of the previously mentioned argument that there is no market for the 1528s. This leap isn't logical, plenty of speakers sell well based on marketing fluff without rigorous measurements. The market success or failure of a speaker isn't dictated by whether they make sense to you, it's determined by how well they are reaching their target customer base and whether they are hitting the right vibe with them.
I suggest you go back and read my post. Your entire 2nd paragraph is way off mark. I could not care less if Arendal sells 1 or 1 million of these as I am in no way affiliated with them. I just look at this as a sole consumer based on market standards.

For people looking into value and performance based on measurements, this is obviously a no go as of now, but understand that plenty of others that would just splash for it regardless how irrational that would be.
 
They could send a couple to amirm.
They did not want to for various reason. But I would love to see his review which would clear at least some mud (if not cater to my SPL requirements). Shipping these will be a costly challenge though if any member decides to do so.
 
They have already sent them to other reviewers.
 
I find this very interesting. It is not every day I meet someone who are of a completely polar opposite opinion of myself, so let's try to unpack this. I would genuinely like to better understand your position.

Honestly, can’t disagree more with you in just about any aspect of your response.

Obviously we are at opposite wavelength and you are quite hard to catch as seems you always seem to be telling the opposite story. What does not make sense are your comments. I do require a world from a tower costing as much as this one and it does not make any sense to me that you would be thinking of that as nonsense. On the contrary - I think that your are completely in the wrong.
"I do require a world from a tower costing as much as this one and it does not make any sense to me that you would be thinking of that as nonsense". Here you are either actively using a straw man, or you are reading between the lines and attributing opinions to me that I do not have. I have not anywhere said that a tower costing 10k should not be a good speaker. At the same time we live in a world where the Borresen X3 with its 4.5" woofers and ..interesting measurements costs even more than this. We also live in a world where you can find speakers that cost 100,000 or even 1,000,000. So when you say that you require "a world" from a tower that cost 10k/pair, it is a bit hard to understand exactly what you mean by that, and what you are comparing it to.


So for the record, my view thus far is:

As of now, and regardless of what nonsense people are throwing in here (not to limit just to @sigbergaudio) Arendal 1528 big towers and center have nothing to distinguish them from more established offerings on the market, that BTW seem to have smaller form factor or lower price.

I agree with you that I am not sure why the 1528 needs to be as big as it is, or as heavy as it is. So I think we must assume that the intended audience here is people who WANT a large tower speaker. So I am not sure we can hold that against it. We're back to personal preferences again. If I am looking for a small speaker, a big speaker will not be for me. But that doesn't mean it is not for other people.

Beyond that, and my apologies if I have missed it, can you please suggest a current, speaker that has a list price (not discounted) that is lower than the Arendal, that you think is a way better deal?

Similarly, trade in value of Arendal is zero so one has to think of who would ever want to buy these bulky speakers and for what price.

If anyone can point to the different view based on measurements and science, pls be my guest. But really tired of the voodoo masters and alike telling me I am wrong.

Why would you suggest that the trade in value of Arendal is zero? It certainly isn't in my country, and I think they have a decent enough popularity that I doubt that is the case in a number of other countries either. According to your profile you live in the EU, so I do not think this is true for where you live.

You are also again pointing out the bulkiness. Again I agree with you from my personal point of view that such large speakers is certainly impractical. But again it seems you are taking your personal opinion and generalizing it. Others my find it super cool that they are large and heavy.

Different view: The size and quality of the cabinet work alone makes it impressive that the 1528 Towers aren't even more expensive. The only way they've pulled that off is by producing at scale in China. Personally I try to avoid it, but if they did, they would be even more expensive. And again it is perfectly fine that you find this to be a negative rather than positive, but it is cost and subsequently value for whoever appreciates this. Further you get a speaker that is probably at least at the Revel F328be level with regards to capacity and SPL, and I would also argue apparent build quality. Sound quality is to me so far unknown. The F328 costs more than twice as much.

Finally I take slight offense by being implied to be part of a group of voodoo masters. If you have familiarized yourself at all with my offerings, you would know this is far from the truth.
 
I find this very interesting. It is not every day I meet someone who are of a completely polar opposite opinion of myself, so let's try to unpack this. I would genuinely like to better understand your position.


"I do require a world from a tower costing as much as this one and it does not make any sense to me that you would be thinking of that as nonsense". Here you are either actively using a straw man, or you are reading between the lines and attributing opinions to me that I do not have. I have not anywhere said that a tower costing 10k should not be a good speaker. At the same time we live in a world where the Borresen X3 with its 4.5" woofers and ..interesting measurements costs even more than this. We also live in a world where you can find speakers that cost 100,000 or even 1,000,000. So when you say that you require "a world" from a tower that cost 10k/pair, it is a bit hard to understand exactly what you mean by that, and what you are comparing it to.




I agree with you that I am not sure why the 1528 needs to be as big as it is, or as heavy as it is. So I think we must assume that the intended audience here is people who WANT a large tower speaker. So I am not sure we can hold that against it. We're back to personal preferences again. If I am looking for a small speaker, a big speaker will not be for me. But that doesn't mean it is not for other people.

Beyond that, and my apologies if I have missed it, can you please suggest a current, speaker that has a list price (not discounted) that is lower than the Arendal, that you think is a way better deal?



Why would you suggest that the trade in value of Arendal is zero? It certainly isn't in my country, and I think they have a decent enough popularity that I doubt that is the case in a number of other countries either. According to your profile you live in the EU, so I do not think this is true for where you live.

You are also again pointing out the bulkiness. Again I agree with you from my personal point of view that such large speakers is certainly impractical. But again it seems you are taking your personal opinion and generalizing it. Others my find it super cool that they are large and heavy.

Different view: The size and quality of the cabinet work alone makes it impressive that the 1528 Towers aren't even more expensive. The only way they've pulled that off is by producing at scale in China. Personally I try to avoid it, but if they did, they would be even more expensive. And again it is perfectly fine that you find this to be a negative rather than positive, but it is cost and subsequently value for whoever appreciates this. Further you get a speaker that is probably at least at the Revel F328be level with regards to capacity and SPL, and I would also argue apparent build quality. Sound quality is to me so far unknown. The F328 costs more than twice as much.

Finally I take slight offense by being implied to be part of a group of voodoo masters. If you have familiarized yourself at all with my offerings, you would know this is far from the truth.
Apologies if I was too harsh - was a difficult day and probably should have used softer language.

We really don't need to unpack this as it would not lead anywhere. I think both of us stated our thoughts and they are what they are.

Just the last point is that the only thing that makes sense to me is to compare street prices of other gear to direct prices Arendal offers that obviously offers no discount except 10% in the outlet. In that case, I don't see any extreme value for the big LCR combo, at least not yet. I see something that is expected to be more or less in line with the competition that is more established in that price range and where we have more data and reviews - and offers less bulky design.

As many noted, bookshelves seem to be quite interesting though.

Since not interested in 1528 speakers (at least at this point), probably best that I focus on the ones that appeal to me and leave Arendal to the others that might like them. Hope people will enjoy their 1528s.
 
Apologies if I was too harsh - was a difficult day and probably should have used softer language.

We really don't need to unpack this as it would not lead anywhere. I think both of us stated our thoughts and they are what they are.

Just the last point is that the only thing that makes sense to me is to compare street prices of other gear to direct prices Arendal offers that obviously offers no discount except 10% in the outlet. In that case, I don't see any extreme value for the big LCR combo, at least not yet. I see something that is expected to be more or less in line with the competition that is more established in that price range and where we have more data and reviews - and offers less bulky design.

As many noted, bookshelves seem to be quite interesting though.

Since not interested in 1528 speakers (at least at this point), probably best that I focus on the ones that appeal to me and leave Arendal to the others that might like them. Hope people will enjoy their 1528s.

No apology necessary. :) And for the record I have also not claimed that the Arendals offer extreme value.
 
Apologies if I was too harsh - was a difficult day and probably should have used softer language.

We really don't need to unpack this as it would not lead anywhere. I think both of us stated our thoughts and they are what they are.

Just the last point is that the only thing that makes sense to me is to compare street prices of other gear to direct prices Arendal offers that obviously offers no discount except 10% in the outlet. In that case, I don't see any extreme value for the big LCR combo, at least not yet. I see something that is expected to be more or less in line with the competition that is more established in that price range and where we have more data and reviews - and offers less bulky design.

As many noted, bookshelves seem to be quite interesting though.

Since not interested in 1528 speakers (at least at this point), probably best that I focus on the ones that appeal to me and leave Arendal to the others that might like them. Hope people will enjoy their 1528s.
One has to wonder if it´s possible to acomplish similar results to these behemoths with a lot less volume in an active speaker with a DSP.

Mr. Sigberg would probably smile at my previous words as that is precisely what he does, but arguably, he´s not the in the center of the Gauss curve of the speaker manufacturing bussines.
 
Will have to look at it closer but does not seem like really good upon quick glance.
 
Lol - looks good to you?
 
Are we going to have to be impressed with the marketing videos?

The measurements have been posted and they are not bad, but distortion is a bit high even at 50hz, and unknown below that?
 
Haha I was hoping to hear from the pros on ASR....
Soundstage has been measuring loudspeakers for YEARS at Canada's NRC anechoic chamber. I'd say they're pros. As far as distortion, you're not going to find many loudspeakers that beat what the Arendal can do at 50 hz. The Revel Ultima Salon 2 has higher distortion comparatively at 95 db. Other than minor breakup in the midrange, these measure insanely good.
 
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