To an extent. I think room size and distance from speakers are part of the equation.In my opinion an excellent bookshelf speaker and 2-4 subwoofers beat every tower in value for money with at least the same sound quality.
To an extent. I think room size and distance from speakers are part of the equation.In my opinion an excellent bookshelf speaker and 2-4 subwoofers beat every tower in value for money with at least the same sound quality.
What amp/sub? You can do both music and movies in a single room....I have seen the great reviews for active speakers. I have an existing sub and an amp. I don’t what that would look like incorporating active speakers into such a set up, especially for HT. I might go that route someday if I had a separate music only room.
A few things:Who said that monkey coffins would come without subs - in fact one large sub is in play. It might need a family in such large room though.
Also the ask was to stay passive which I understand perfectly.
Actually nowadays the trend is to have more bass sources and rattle your boxes with low bass. If they can’t handle it then wrong boxes.
Point taken on studios, but their setups are completely different and always were than home setups. Even for such large rooms, 118dB 1 m rating from e.g. Arendal will bring maynhem even to such big room.
My final point is that room is really too big to be pressured completely in low end without extreme measures. If possible to cut it shorter, would actually work better with less resources.
• Couldn’t find any Arendal speaker that can output 118dB on their site. Their top line 1528 Tower 8 is rated at 90dB. Pushed to 118dB, they will not sound very nice and, done on a regular basis, they won’t last very long.
You can find the full 1528 tower specs in the handbook:A few things:
• Didn’t read the complete post so may have missed a thing or two, but my thought was to offer a better alternative. I view passive speakers with the same regard as incandescent lights.
• Couldn’t find any Arendal speaker that can output 118dB on their site. Their top line 1528 Tower 8 is rated at 90dB. Pushed to 118dB, they will not sound very nice and, done on a regular basis, they won’t last very long.
• Don’t know what trend you are talking about, but having your mids and tweets in the same box that makes low bass is a design compromise
I've got the older Ascend Acoustic Sierra Tower (with ribbon tweeter) and think they are just tremendous.Ascend ELX tower-highest score with sub here
Idk why but outriggers are naff.If it were me, I'd jump on this discounted (open box) pair of KEF Reference 3's: https://us.kef.com/products/reference-3-floorstanding-speaker-open-boxView attachment 419015
I had the Sierra Tower RAAL v1 and agree they are tremendous. That said, after conversing with Ascend, I made the upgrade to ELX (cross-over, new bass & midrange drivers). These are a big step up from the originals. Can't go wrong for the price nor with Ascend - a real pleasure to do business with.I've got the older Ascend Acoustic Sierra Tower (with ribbon tweeter) and think they are just tremendous.
And I like the in-room bass extension to 26 Hz (~-3 dB relative to the trend line, with DRC from a MiniDSP Flex).
I also like that I bought them direct from the company and that the cases are made of bamboo.
I also like that Dave spoke to me on the phone to help me choose a pair of speakers.
It's like Ascend Acoustics is the opposite end of the spectrum from Samsung (Revel). The mom and pop shop vs the global megacorp. There's no doubt that Revel and JBL speakers are good. But so are Ascend.
I thought that about that upgrade when it was offered with $200 off at introduction. I decided not to because of a few things but the biggest was: what if I do the upgrade and can't say what the difference is. I actually feared the possibility of feeling foolish. LolI had the Sierra Tower RAAL v1 and agree they are tremendous. That said, after conversing with Ascend, I made the upgrade to ELX (cross-over, new bass & midrange drivers). These are a big step up from the originals. Can't go wrong for the price nor with Ascend - a real pleasure to do business with.
This is perfectly reasonable. Well measuring speakers sound way more alike than different. Most people in the hobby are laser-focused on the small differences, but for many of us they are not significant. (And of course the non-ASR hobbyist is often laser-focused on differences that are entirely imaginary.)I thought that about that upgrade when it was offered with $200 off at introduction. I decided not to because of a few things but the biggest was: what if I do the upgrade and can't say what the difference is. I actually feared the possibility of feeling foolish. Lol
I really have not hear Borrensen X3, but I never would like to either, nor would ever look at their graphs seriously. I do think that Perlisten went small with 6.5" drivers on bass end, even if 4 of them (but they actually knew why and pulled it off to large extent) but this has infant bass drivers (more like midrange) and 2.5 way design. I can imagine why they measure as bad as you say. Our ears are deceivers and can take us places where we should not go, thus the specs and measurements should guide us in at least right direction. Or our individual preferences might be so extreme that they would not be valid for the broader audience.
Borrensen X3: dimensions of 129 x 34.5 x 60.7cm HxWxD; 55kg; 35Hz-50kHz bandwidth; 90dB sensitivity; 4Ω nominal impedance; and dual 4½" woofers for the 2.5-way array's 'half-way' bass section.
BMR Towers are respectable speakers, but have their limitations. Might be a good value though.
Not my experience at all.This is perfectly reasonable. Well measuring speakers sound way more alike than different.
Fireworks in the dealer demo can often result in long term dissatisfaction, whereas the speaker that underwhelms impresses over the long term.It so happens I auditioned Perlisten R5Ts in the same system immediately after the Borresens. In fact, auditioning the Perlistens was my motive for visiting the dealer that day. Thought I would likely be going home with a pair since he had them available at a large discount. I was sorely disappointed in the Perlistens though. They sounded nothing like I expected for a speaker with a monitor-reference freq response. They reminded me of the Q Acoustics Concept 50, another speaker that measures well yet sounds very underwhelming in most respects.
Fireworks Finale from https://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tom-danleys-mic-recordings/ ! For such demonstrations I recommend an amplifier with the power recommended in the speaker specifications, turned up to full power. But since not everyone has a sense of black humor, proceed with cautionFireworks in the dealer demo