Are people getting sick of streaming services...

[Jmudrick]

Nope I'm good

 

[Mark617]

While I would like to believe young people are buying music and artists can make more money from recordings like old times, I don't see it happening. My kids and all their friends stream music and don't give a thought about other options. If streaming dies it will be because of money issues, not because everyone got sick of it.

My kids use streaming but they actually buy downloads because streaming services cannot be counted on keeping the libraries stable be it music or movies.

 

[HiMu]

Are you coming across that thing where bad (mostly) rappers take their names from prog and metal bands... so the algorithm thinks you were actually watching those rappers and start suggesting other rappers you might like?

I mostly listen to more or less underground leaning electronic music, so anything with generic name gets bunched in the same basket. But yes, especially South American/portuguese/spanish rap or generic metal.
I added one collaboration track to a playlist and started getting some pretty weird suggestions based on this artist, some of these might not be dub/"ambient" techno...

 

[ahofer]

I should add and as I explained in the linked post:

I should have added: Having a huge universe of music available by streaming has changed my life. When I was a kid I used to take the bus to the Lincoln Center Music Library to browse and listen to new records on the weekends. This practice expanded my tastes.

Now I do it every night from my armchair sweet spot. What a life.

Describe your decisive experience that completely changed your view of audiophilia with a comment.

I had a very similar experience and take away from my experience with the Harman speaker shuffler. In my case it was as a dealer so they were selling me on their science, but as I listened to the three speakers on demo, one was a standout as a real honker. I thought to myself, "Oh dear god...

audiosciencereview.com

 

[A Surfer]

I use Pandora almost every day with a couple of stations I've set up with lists of artists and then it plays things from around those. I buy songs I find through that or from TV shows or movies thru Apple and add them to our phones. My favorite on Pandora is our Thievery Corporation station. At night we use Spotify's 8-Hour Sleep Music played thru the 5.1 system in the MBR. Very, very relaxing.

I'm a big fan of Thievery Corporation. I actually have many of their albums on CD.

 

[Geert]

I also have a large collection of albums on a media player, spanning more then 40 years of being into music. I love building a collection of music that I like, it's probably a hobby by itself. Never had a subscription to a streaming service. I do listen to internet radio when doing jobs in and around the house, and when I hear something that sparks my interest I'll take note and check the artist later on.

 

[CapMan]

Very happy with Qobuz and as my own library is integrated seamlessly with Roon its best of both worlds. <$20 a month for so much choice is unreal value for money - couldn't do without it now.

 

[HalSF]

I get the unease and distaste for the social-media and robotic algorithmic recommendation-engine aspects of streaming, and the ugly exploitation part of the business model’s treatment of artists. Spotify leads the field in these kinds of creepiness and rampant Facebookery.

I buy LPs and CDs while also listening to a lot of Apple Music streaming, but the frequent assertion that buying physical media is a somehow prudent prepper strategy because your collection will survive some imminent future streaming collapse seems completely kooky tome, like building a fallout shelter in the backyard.

The big picture is that despite various qualms it inspires, streaming is now the dominant infrastructure for delivering music, and a fantastic boon for music lovers. It’s like having a key to a vast multistory Tower Records or Virgin Megastore with unlimited borrowing privileges — in that sense it’s heavenly, and irresistible.

As a general proposition, “people are getting sick of streaming services” is ridiculous.

 

[DLS79]

Imo the next big thing will be personal streaming. It's currently over most people's budgets and technical ability but even today it's possible.

 

[ahofer]

Hilarious that Roon just threw me "Drs Gradus ad Parnassum" played on *accordion*. Smashed the skip button.

 

[CapMan]

Hilarious that Roon just threw me "Drs Gradus ad Parnassum" played on *accordion*. Smashed the skip button.

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Why - Richard Galliano is one of the finest players in the World - a virtuoso. His new Gerhswin album is wonderful, or maybe try the album "If You Love Me" with Gary Burton.

I love that Roon throws occasional curve balls - helps broaden the mind.

 

[Geert]

Hilarious that Roon just threw me "Drs Gradus ad Parnassum" played on *accordion*. Smashed the skip button.

It's a new beta feature where you can make suggestions for others. You can thank me later

 

[Leon74]

Imo the next big thing will be personal streaming. It's currently over most people's budgets and technical ability but even today it's possible.

What is "personal streaming"? Deezer has the unique Flow, it's my personal radio. Just a pity that though good, Deezer's audio quality is not on par with Qobuz (but better than Spotify, at least when I compared them years ago).

 

[ahofer]

Why - Richard Galliano is one of the finest players in the World - a virtuoso. His new Gerhswin album is wonderful, or maybe try the album "If You Love Me" with Gary Burton.

I love that Roon throws occasional curve balls - helps broaden the mind.

Curve balls is not what you want in a 'radio' feature - you want things with some common thread. I listen to all sorts of music, but i did not care for the THREE Galiiano tracks Roon sent me*, even though I skipped and marked them all. They were supposedly spawned from a Mendelssohn quartet I put on earlier.

Generally, Idagio is very good at this. Roon sucks.


*A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion but doesn't - P.G. Wodehouse.

 

[CapMan]

*A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion but doesn't - P.G. Wodehouse.

I wish he'd been at the Ryan Corbett recital I went to in Bristol recently - I had no appreciation of the technical skill and physicality needed to perform on the instrument. Has to be seen to be believed, but that is going rather off topic.

 

[pablolie]

I also have a large collection of albums on a media player, spanning more then 40 years of being into music. I love building a collection of music that I like, it's probably a hobby by itself. Never had a subscription to a streaming service. I do listen to internet radio when doing jobs in and around the house, and when I hear something that sparks my interest I'll take note and check the artist later on.

I do the same (extensive library, curated to my absolute favoritea) but I also stream extensively due to convenience.

 

[DLS79]

What is "personal streaming"? Deezer has the unique Flow, it's my personal radio. Just a pity that though good, Deezer's audio quality is not on par with Qobuz (but better than Spotify, at least when I compared them years ago).

1. a nas with the appropriate software
2. a good local network with firewall etc
3. a static ip address for your network connection
4. the appropriate applications on the devises you want to stream to.

 

[Brian Hall]

Roon has an “I don’t like this” button when you skip a track, but it always comes up with something equally vile.

When I had Tidal, it seemed like it took forever before I convinced it to stop recommending rap and hip hop. It finally got the message.

 

[Galliardist]

Curve balls is not what you want in a 'radio' feature - you want things with some common thread. I listen to all sorts of music, but i did not care for the THREE Galiiano tracks Roon sent me*, even though I skipped and marked them all. They were supposedly spawned from a Mendelssohn quartet I put on earlier.

Generally, Idagio is very good at this. Roon sucks.


*A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion but doesn't - P.G. Wodehouse.

Three tracks seems to indicate a "common thread" though, maybe one you didn't want.

I've noticed that artist relationships are used by Qobuz over music classifications for suggestions. This may be the result of half the modern music there being noted as "Alternative and Indie". It seems whoever uploads music to these sites goes for broad classifications when more specific genres are available, and I suspect that happens because they will get picked more for such features. Popularity in the particular customer base of the streamer also counts.

So in your case, it's possible that Roon saw an apparently popular album linking the quartet and the accordionist.

YouTube is similar and predictable. If I play any classical guitar related piece by anybody, no matter how obscure the piece and whoever the performers, or if the guitar is playing a minor role in a large ensemble: if I leave the autoplay function on and come back half an hour later, an Ana Vidovic concert will be playing. I hope she's getting paid!

 

[restorer-john]

I'm a big fan of Thievery Corporation. I actually have many of their albums on CD.

Got into them in about 2003. Richest Man in Babylon IIRC started me on the trip.