Are people getting sick of streaming services...

[thegeton]

I can accept that someone prefers to own cd's or to be part of the vinyl process because in the end listening to music is a hobby.

I can also understand that for some screens and digital playlists are a turn off...some may want to own their music because streaming is just renting and albums leave platforms all the time.

What I am focused on and what I cant accept is that somehow streaming is killing the whole music listening situation and that people do not connect with their music because spotify tells them what they want to listen to.

If someone wants to connect with music now its easier than ever...you can even download on the spot cover art and lyrics...and carry all your music with you in the office or walking or in your car.

Totally agreed. The source isn't always relevant to connection and I don't always listen to the suggestions from Spotify.

I use streaming for discovery, not as a means to avoid physical media.

 

[whataboutmusic]

Totally agreed. The source isn't always relevant to connection and I don't always listen to the suggestions from Spotify.

I use streaming for discovery, not as a means to avoid physical media.

I use streaming for everything...I don't even use my cd's that I keep for sentimental reasons.

I also use spotify for discovery and then I am listening to tidal because of the better sound quality and I also add to my playlists.

Digital may not have the whole vinyl "ritual'' but I don't need cover art and searching for a record in a store....if I find an album or artist that I like I have the whole internet providing me information, cover art, live videos, forums talking about everything there is etc, etc...

I actually do try to avoid physical media because for the amount of music I listen to and search I would have to be a billionaire to keep up

 

[aiyagari]

I have been streaming Qobuz for 2 years, but have recently come back to my personal library hosted on Plex (so I have an app that can download or even stream to my phone for the car etc).

Qobuz is great for finding new music. I am keeping the subscription. I don't like how there is no longer a direct way to play the favorite tracks, but with Soundiiz I could create a "favorites" playlist from the favorites tracks, which is a workaround.

But - and I have made this clear to Qobuz as feedback a year ago - there is no way to really select a set of albums to listen to and just listen to them. You can either listen to one album, or you have to have gone through the effort of making playlists. And I agree with the others on the Genre problem.

When you have a personal library, there is so much more flexibility. And Plex allows me so much filtering criteria, I can make all sorts of auto-generated playlists that just work really well. I like auto-generation because I don't have to do the work. I am listening to songs that I haven't heard in a long time. I think over time I will use Qobuz for discovery, buy the downloads and put them in my Plex library. With Plexamp it is presented beautifully enough that I don't need physical media (the UI matters and it is really nice - i.e. album cover always shows up even on the buggy Tesla interface).

I do have some CDs remaining to be ripped... but once those are done, maybe I will sell them...

 

[MattHooper]

Before streaming there was of course… Napster. And the torrenting, downloading of countless songs and albums, people ripping and sharing CDs, etc.

Before streaming became popular, I was offered to be part of a music sharing thingy.
There was something like a 10 TB drive being passed around the tons of people had added to, which I could’ve added to my library.
There was just an astonishing amount of music ripped onto those drives.

I said no for a couple of reasons. One was that I was against the whole downloading free music thing. I always paid for all music I put into my library, whether it was CDs or iTunes or whatever.

The other was, there was something that felt slightly obscene about the whole thing: the idea of owning a hard drive with so much music that I was unlikely to ever get to in my lifetime. So much music they would just sit there unheard, it just seems like excess. And to me the fact that all that artistry could just be dumped for free into a hard drive like that felt like it devalued the music on that drive.

I much preferred to have a curated collection that I was familiar with, which didn’t include stuff I’ve never listen to, and it seemed manageable.

That’s still generally how I feel and probably why getting back into vinyl records also appealed to me, along with my ripped CD collection.

Some of that those same feelings transferred over to the streaming music phenomenon. But not all of it. I still prefer the curated aspect of my own collection. On the other hand, maybe because it’s not all sitting in a hard drive in my house or something, seems to exist out on the ether, the access to streaming music is something I value and still seems pretty amazing to me.

Just wondering if anybody else had similar feelings about “ excess” when it comes to scenarios of boundless music. ?

 

[Doodski]

Before streaming there was of course… Napster. And the torrenting, downloading of countless songs and albums, people ripping and sharing CDs, etc.

Before streaming became popular, I was offered to be part of a music sharing thingy.
There was something like a 10 TB drive being passed around the tons of people had added to, which I could’ve added to my library.
There was just an astonishing amount of music ripped onto those drives.

I said no for a couple of reasons. One was that I was against the whole downloading, free music thing. I always paid for every music I ever put into my library, whether it was CDs or iTunes or whatever.

The other was, there was something they felt slightly obscene about the whole thing: the idea of owning a hard drive with so much music that I was unlikely to ever get to most of it in my lifetime, so much music they would just sit there unheard, it just seems like excess. And to me the fact that all that artistry could just be dumped for free into a hard drive like that felt like it devalued the music on that drive.

I must preferred to have a curated collection, that I was familiar with, That didn’t include stuff I’ve never listen to, and it seemed manageable.

That’s still generally how I feel and probably why getting back into vinyl records also appealed to me, along with my ripped CD collection.

Some of that those same feelings transferred over to the streaming music phenomenon. But not all of it. I still prefer the curated aspect of my own collection. On the other hand, maybe because it’s not all sitting in a hard drive in my house or something, seems to exist out on the ether, the access to streaming music is something I value and still seems pretty amazing to me.

Just wondering if anybody else had similar feelings about “ excess” when it comes to scenarios of boundless music. ?

I was one of the people that file shared via P2P and after I collected about 34,000+ music tracks plus thousands of video tracks I opened my drive for maximum upload unlimited bandwidth P2P file sharing. It was legal and from what I know still legal to filer shar music but not videos in Canada but I had a catastrophic event that resulted in all data lost. I was starting to feel a bit guilty about file sharing so many music tracks and videos and now I am happier now that I stream. I've been streaming for some years now and enjoy the vast selection and huge assortment of music and videos plus my ISP does not send me threatening emails.