Are people getting sick of streaming services...

[A Surfer]

Absolutely. Things that are tangible matter. People are craving, yearning for real things. Even shopping malls may come back in style again.

 

[0bs3rv3r]

Streaming will probably just take over as the equivalent of FM radio where we hear more new music and then buy it to show support for the artists.

Yes, especially as internet access spreads. I can use it in my car these days, so I have come from AM to FM, to DAB+, to streaming - however I still have a USB thumb drive full of my own music

 

[pjug]

Everything has its time in the sun and then dies out. Streaming will be the same. Vinyl, CDs, AM and FM radio, they all reached a peak and declined. Streaming and streaming services are past their peak IMO.

There is definitely a returning to "physical" ownership of artists' output. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go into an electronics store that sells physical media. The current young adult generation is lapping up physical. I watch them in amazement, especially with "new" $60+ vinyl.

Streaming will probably just take over as the equivalent of FM radio where we hear more new music and then buy it to show support for the artists.

While I would like to believe young people are buying music and artists can make more money from recordings like old times, I don't see it happening. My kids and all their friends stream music and don't give a thought about other options. If streaming dies it will be because of money issues, not because everyone got sick of it.

 

[0bs3rv3r]

While I would like to believe young people are buying music and artists can make more money from recordings like old times, I don't see it happening. My kids and all their friends stream music and don't give a thought about other options. If streaming dies it will be because of money issues, not because everyone got sick of it.

If everyone is using streaming these days, then surely the model that says, get paid a little, many times over, should have swung into effect by now, and artists should be getting better returns.

 

[Brian Hall]

Streaming was transformative in my audio life. When listening at home, I choose nearly 100% of the music; I'm not sure where the complaint is about being "pushed" to listen to other things.

I use Amazon's suggested channels when I'm in my car on road trips and I have been surprised at how good it is. If something comes on that I don't want to hear (e.g., in my superannuated hippie music stream, the sound of Neil Young is nails on a blackboard to me), I can skip with the touch of a button ("Ahh, Pink Floyd! Much better!").

I am an unabashed fan of this technology.

All of the services need a "Never play that crap again!" button.

 

[OldHvyMec]

I've always used "The Music Channel" and have since it started. The wife uses Spotify. I personally use/buy physical records, 33.3s, 45s, 78s, CDs, and even have quite a collection of old Cassettes, and a few 3.25, 7.5, 15ips RtR. I can't see streaming going away, but I'll never use it as a main source over LP, CDs or RtR. I have a nice
server for convenience and use it at parties or gatherings at the house. If I had it my way, there wouldn't be anything other than the MC and physical media at the house.

If I like the music enough, to listen to it, I buy a copy. I'll never understand renting something I can own. BUT that's me. I only rented a place to live between 16 and 19 years of age. I bought my first homes in 1974 and paid 5K for a pair of 650sf homes on 1/4 acre. Old habits are hard to break.

Regards

 

[Ken1951]

I use Pandora almost every day with a couple of stations I've set up with lists of artists and then it plays things from around those. I buy songs I find through that or from TV shows or movies thru Apple and add them to our phones. My favorite on Pandora is our Thievery Corporation station. At night we use Spotify's 8-Hour Sleep Music played thru the 5.1 system in the MBR. Very, very relaxing.

 

[Galliardist]

I am already supporting it, why pay twice and what to have another ‘bought’ library.
I would pay more for a streaming provider that paid the artists more though.
Keith

I believe that for some artists a CD or LP sale brings in the same as several thousand streams of tracks. It's no contest if you want to keep them alive and possibly even not starving.

Last time I checked, Qobuz was the biggest payer per streamed track, for what it's worth. I understand that Spotify isn't even paying unless the number of streams a month reaches a minimum now, and things are only going to get worse.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

No, I’m not getting sick of streaming. Streaming has replaced radio for music discovery, with the added bonus that I can create my own playlist so it replaces the mix tape as well. Easier to share than past days.

I don’t find the generated suggestions problematic, the algorithms seem to expand with the variability in my musical tastes. They are not interrupting my playlists either, if so would be an irritation but a minor one.

This sums it up for me too.
I have a collection of CDs that I occasionally enjoy playing, but I often feel a bit silly afterward, realizing I could have just streamed the album on Spotify instead. It's pure nostalgia driving me in these moments.

 

[holdingpants01]

keep in mind that for people born after 2000 or so there's no such thing as going back as they never experienced physical media world first hand, they certainly can have a second hand nostalgia, but it mostly comes down to collecting, rather than really using it. It shouldn't be surprising given that 50% of vinyl buyers doesn't even own a record player. Rising sales doesn't mean rising physical media consumption.

 

[Galliardist]

Absolutely. Things that are tangible matter. People are craving, yearning for real things. Even shopping malls may come back in style again.

If I ever see actual evidence of this being above a tiny minority, in terms of sales figures for music, movies or anything else that is available easily as a download, I'll come back and let you know. Until then, you're kidding yourself.

 

[A Surfer]

If I ever see actual evidence of this being above a tiny minority, in terms of sales figures for music, movies or anything else that is available easily as a download, I'll come back and let you know. Until then, you're kidding yourself.

I guess we'll see. Although to be fair, it will be difficult to accurately quantify. I imagine that the vast majority of people will still keep their streaming services, but they may use them less and enjoy them less in many cases.

I know that I certainly enjoy the streaming experience far less than I did. I'm also glad that I managed to keep about half of my CD collection.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

I guess we'll see. Although to be fair, it will be difficult to accurately quantify. I imagine that the vast majority of people will still keep their streaming services, but they may use them less and enjoy them less in many cases.

I know that I certainly enjoy the streaming experience far less than I did. I'm also glad that I managed to keep about half of my CD collection.

In that case, it might be more about nostalgia and emotions than fully appreciating the music itself. I get that those aspects are intertwined, but I’ve been able to enjoy so much more music through streaming than I ever could with physical media. That said, as times have changed, so have I.

 

[ahofer]

All of the services need a "Never play that crap again!" button.

Roon has an “I don’t like this” button when you skip a track, but it always comes up with something equally vile.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

Roon has an “I don’t like this” button when you skip a track, but it always comes up with something equally vile.

Spotify has as well.

 

[Multicore]

"The medium is the message."

I'm not without my doubts about Marshall McLuhan but this idea can be quite useful when we're looking at culture in the service of commerce. It's certainly useful in looking at vinyl as we do in another thread. But the streaming medium, what is its message?

McLuhan sometimes preferred "The medium is the massage," to emphasize the controlling effects of TV.

 

[Hayabusa]

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Are people getting sick of streaming services...​

no...

 

[HiMu]

Tidal does not do that, but their suggestion are also not good for most.

Tidal suggestions and the generated daily discovery is just hilariously bad most of the time, the lowest point was Tiktok stock music... One of the problems is that they bunch artists with the same name under a single profile, so if you add tracks from your selected artist to your playlist, now the suggestions gets plagued by completely unrelated artists from different genres.

So better start liking those schlagers, ai generated stock music and autotuned cartel trap or get out!

 

[Jeff M.]

I like streaming services and spotify is my many music source. I started buying cds again and then stopped due to how much money it will take to get my huge collection back. I only buy rare and hard to find music on cds or not on any streaming platforms. Also I like how nothing gets scratched or warped or damaged in the car or at home. I don’t miss the days of taking the cd out and holding it on its sides so you wouldn’t get fingerprints or drop it and scratch it. Records Are awesome and 1day back into buying records. Space and room are limited for me. So My dad has a nice collection of Chet Akins in mint records. I also like a lot of play list for the music as well on Spotify. I don’t pay for it my wife does so it’s free for the family. .

Add note. Am I sick and tired of streaming services no for music yes for tv. . Such a shame.

 

[Galliardist]

Tidal suggestions and the generated daily discovery is just hilariously bad most of the time, the lowest point was Tiktok stock music... One of the problems is that they bunch artists with the same name under a single profile, so if you add tracks from your selected artist to your playlist, now the suggestions gets plagued by completely unrelated artists from different genres.

So better start liking those schlagers, ai generated stock music and autotuned cartel trap or get out!
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Are you coming across that thing where bad (mostly) rappers take their names from prog and metal bands... so the algorithm thinks you were actually watching those rappers and start suggesting other rappers you might like?