Any reason not to order the new Buckeye 2nd Gen Purifi EIGENTAKT 2-ch amplifier?

[Wavez]

I need a new amp that pushes 200w+ per channel into 8ohm. (Revel f208 speakers, Wiim ultra streamer - I know I don't need 200w+, but I just want to give them all the power they're rated for and never worry about it again. Need to replace my current amp anyways.)

I was going to order the Nilai Hypex DIY kit, but this 2nd gen Eigentakt 1ET6525SA is for sale with similar specs. I like that it's prebuilt for about the same money, and I prefer the look of the buckeye case.

Now, the new Buckeye hasn't even been measured yet, and I don't think anyone has heard it either, so kind of shooting in the dark here, but seems like I can't really go wrong with this choice.
What would you do?

 

[BillH]

My answer to the title: No. No reason not to order from Buckeye.

 

[restorer-john]

I need a new amp that pushes 200w+ per channel into 8ohm. (Revel f208 speakers, Wiim ultra streamer - I know I don't need 200w+, but I just want to give them all the power they're rated for and never worry about it again. Need to replace my current amp anyways.)

I was going to order the Nilai Hypex DIY kit, but this 2nd gen Eigentakt 1ET6525SA is for sale with similar specs. I like that it's prebuilt for about the same money, and I prefer the look of the buckeye case.

Now, the new Buckeye hasn't even been measured yet, and I don't think anyone has heard it either, so kind of shooting in the dark here, but seems like I can't really go wrong with this choice.
What would you do?

You probably can't go wrong with the Buckeye and if you genuinely prefer the old-skool-car-battery-charger look casework, I say just get one and be done with it.

 

[Doodski]

Have you contacted Dylan at Buckeye Amps to discuss the various models available and options?

 

[Power Pop 23]

Agreed, no reason not to order from Buckeye Amps. I would also consider the $695 Buckeye Amps Hypex NC502MP amplifier with the older Hypex module.

 

[VMAT4]

You'll need to go from unbalanced to balanced connections. I think Amir reviewed and recommended such a device.

 

[Wavez]

You'll need to go from unbalanced to balanced connections. I think Amir reviewed and recommended such a device.

Buckeye says you can just use an RCA>XLR cable

 

[VMAT4]

You'll need to go from unbalanced to balanced connections. I think Amir reviewed and recommended such a device.

The Henry Engineering Match Box HD is the device.

 

[jamesdyson]

I need a new amp that pushes 200w+ per channel into 8ohm. (Revel f208 speakers, Wiim ultra streamer - I know I don't need 200w+, but I just want to give them all the power they're rated for and never worry about it again. Need to replace my current amp anyways.)

I was going to order the Nilai Hypex DIY kit, but this 2nd gen Eigentakt 1ET6525SA is for sale with similar specs. I like that it's prebuilt for about the same money, and I prefer the look of the buckeye case.

Now, the new Buckeye hasn't even been measured yet, and I don't think anyone has heard it either, so kind of shooting in the dark here, but seems like I can't really go wrong with this choice.
What would you do?

A couple of reasons. First they are not actually available yet. It's a pre order only. Secondly, going on the data Buckeye provided for their new 9040 based amp, their buffer design isn't up to scratch. It won't take advantage of the improved noise and distortion performance of these new modules.
I would wait until they present some measurementsxand compare them to thise of other manufacturers.

 

[Hear Here]

I need a new amp that pushes 200w+ per channel into 8ohm. (Revel f208 speakers, Wiim ultra streamer - I know I don't need 200w+, but I just want to give them all the power they're rated for and never worry about it again. Need to replace my current amp anyways.)

I was going to order the Nilai Hypex DIY kit, but this 2nd gen Eigentakt 1ET6525SA is for sale with similar specs. I like that it's prebuilt for about the same money, and I prefer the look of the buckeye case.

Now, the new Buckeye hasn't even been measured yet, and I don't think anyone has heard it either, so kind of shooting in the dark here, but seems like I can't really go wrong with this choice.
What would you do?

Establish whether they've used a basic Eval(uation) board from Purifi, or if they've developed a Purifi-based board in conjunction with Purifi and built with higher spec parts. Lots of direct or Ebay offerings of "Purifi" amps have this basic board that's designed for evaluation purposes, though many find their way into DIY or "garage-built" amps. I am more than happy with my NAD M33 Purifi-based all-in-one and I understand their M23 amp uses the same built-under-license Purifi technology. T+A do the same and is highly regarded, though I've not heard it myself. Not all Purifi amps will sound the same, so I'd suggest you ask questions, then try a number of contenders before you buy

 

[Buckeye Amps]

Not all Purifi amps will sound the same

Unless by design (such as using a tube buffer), yes they will.

 

[Hear Here]

Unless by design (such as using a tube buffer), yes they will.

Different power supplies, internal wiring, case design, internal screening, better components - surely some of these, or all of them, will influence the sound difference between a cheap DIY or garage-built amp based on a basic Eval board, compared with one costing 2 or 3 times as much (but still much better value than A or AB amps) from a recognised brand that makes the effort to get the absolute best from Eigentakt technology.

 

[Grotti]

Different power supplies, internal wiring, case design, internal screening, better components - surely some of these, or all of them, will influence the sound difference between a cheap DIY or garage-built amp based on a basic Eval board, compared with one costing 2 or 3 times as much (but still much better value than A or AB amps) from a recognised brand that makes the effort to get the absolute best from Eigentakt technology.

The differences in design might influence the outcome of the measurements in some cases. But as long as the differences don't sum up to the threshold of transparency, the amps would most likely sound undistinguishable in a blind test. So yes: they will basically sound the same.

 

[Buckeye Amps]

Different power supplies, internal wiring, case design, internal screening, better components - surely some of these, or all of them, will influence the sound difference between a cheap DIY or garage-built amp based on a basic Eval board, compared with one costing 2 or 3 times as much (but still much better value than A or AB amps) from a recognised brand that makes the effort to get the absolute best from Eigentakt technology.

I guarantee you could take an EVAL board from Purifi, build an amp with it around a DIY solution like Ghent Audio and in a blind A/B test, would not be able to differentiate it from a NAD or similar "recognized" brand.

The only reason there would ever be an audible difference is if there was a defect in the components used or in the wiring (like accidentally wiring out of phase or not grounding proper so there is an audible hum/buzz).

But if spending 2-3x more makes someone feel better about their purchase, that's a different story.

 

[Buckeye Amps]

Being that we are on ASR forums, an easy search would show that cost/being a "recognized" company isn't directly related to better performance

For reference, the entry listed simply as "Purifi 1ET400A" is using the Purifi EVAL board.

 

[Soniclife]

But if spending 2-3x more makes someone feel better about their purchase, that's a different story.

Add an optional price multiplier to your website for people who believe more expensive sounds better, everyone is happy .

 

[pogo]

The M23 should have been tested more extensively, including the bridge-mode, which is only possible with matched modules.
An audible increase at all volumes.
These experiences were also made with the Lyngdorf MXA-8400.

 

[Buckeye Amps]

The M23 should have been tested more extensively, including the bridge-mode, which is only possible with matched modules.
An audible increase at all volumes.
These experiences were also made with the Lyngdorf MXA-8400.

An audible increase of what exactly?

 

[pogo]

See here for example: Link
There are also other reports on this, including on YT or my own experience: Link

 

[Buckeye Amps]

Ahh, so the typical subjective impressions we see with A LOT of audio equipment. Got it.

As I said earlier, setup a proper A/B blind test and no, you won't hear a difference unless there is an inherent issue/defect.