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Answering to myself -> Aeon RT wins clearly. Once the itch is there, the only way to get rid of it is to test yourself. So I got the AKG for comparison testing, applied the EQs and tweaked them also a bit to my liking. AKG feels and sounds 'thin'. They are very lightweight and feel cheap and plastic compared to heavier and more premium Aeon. Aeon pads are also much much better and provide a lush feeling and better sound isolation. The AKG sound is not bad, but words like 'thin' and 'hollow' come to mind. Bass is not as strong and good as with the Aeon.
A good question is the price and can the Aeon justify the 5x price compared to the AKG...
Got the headphones yesterday and played a few EQ settings for a few hours now. At first I thought Oratory's sounded the best but after tinkering around I finally settled on Maiky's preset (dialed the bass down quite a bit, 4 dB lower than posted). They are superbly detailed sounding and tonally sounded correct to my ears after EQ. I really like it! The bass is not planar-level bass but good enough for most people in my opinion. I don't like the stock sound at all, vocals sound shouty and they don't sound tonally correct to me (sounded tinny in the treble region).
Got the headphones yesterday and played a few EQ settings for a few hours now. At first I thought Oratory's sounded the best but after tinkering around I finally settled on Maiky's preset (dialed the bass down quite a bit, 4 dB lower than posted). They are superbly detailed sounding and tonally sounded correct to my ears after EQ. I really like it! The bass is not planar-level bass but good enough for most people in my opinion. I don't like the stock sound at all, vocals sound shouty and they don't sound tonally correct to me (sounded tinny in the treble region).
Here are some thoughts about the EQ.
Notes about the EQ design:
The average L/R is used to calculate the score.
The resolution is 12 points per octave interpolated from the raw data (provided by @amirm)
A Genetic Algorithm is used to optimize the EQ.
The EQ Score is designed to MAXIMIZE the Score WHILE fitting the Harman target curve with a fixed complexity.
This will avoid weird results if one only optimizes for the Score.
It will probably flatten the Error regression doing so, the tonal balance should be more neutral.
The EQs are starting point and may require tuning (certainly at LF).
The range above 10kHz is usually not EQed unless smooth enough to do so.
I am using PEQ (PK) as from my experience the definition is more consistent across different DSP/platform implementations than shelves.
With some HP/amp combo the boosts and preamp gain need to be carefully considered to avoid issues
Poor L/R match.
I have generated one EQ, the APO config file is attached.
Score no EQ: 50.5
Score Armirm: 59.3
Score with EQ: 103.6
Code:
AKG K271 APO EQ Flat@HF 96000Hz
July082021-115100
Preamp: -11.6 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 24.35 Hz Gain 6.97 dB Q 0.26
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 70.19 Hz Gain 6.72 dB Q 1.28
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 626.70 Hz Gain -2.59 dB Q 4.99
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1775.70 Hz Gain -3.09 dB Q 3.23
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 2182.64 Hz Gain 4.00 dB Q 4.04
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 5124.45 Hz Gain 6.45 dB Q 1.18
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 8517.12 Hz Gain -4.68 dB Q 3.73
Here are some thoughts about the EQ.
Notes about the EQ design:
The average L/R is used to calculate the score.
The resolution is 12 points per octave interpolated from the raw data (provided by @amirm)
A Genetic Algorithm is used to optimize the EQ.
The EQ Score is designed to MAXIMIZE the Score WHILE fitting the Harman target curve with a fixed complexity.
This will avoid weird results if one only optimizes for the Score.
It will probably flatten the Error regression doing so, the tonal balance should be more neutral.
The EQs are starting point and may require tuning (certainly at LF).
The range above 10kHz is usually not EQed unless smooth enough to do so.
I am using PEQ (PK) as from my experience the definition is more consistent across different DSP/platform implementations than shelves.
With some HP/amp combo the boosts and preamp gain need to be carefully considered to avoid issues
Poor L/R match.
I have generated one EQ, the APO config file is attached.
Score no EQ: 50.5
Score Armirm: 59.3
Score with EQ: 103.6
Code:
AKG K271 APO EQ Flat@HF 96000Hz
July082021-115100
Preamp: -11.6 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 24.35 Hz Gain 6.97 dB Q 0.26
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 70.19 Hz Gain 6.72 dB Q 1.28
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 626.70 Hz Gain -2.59 dB Q 4.99
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1775.70 Hz Gain -3.09 dB Q 3.23
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 2182.64 Hz Gain 4.00 dB Q 4.04
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 5124.45 Hz Gain 6.45 dB Q 1.18
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 8517.12 Hz Gain -4.68 dB Q 3.73
Disappointed, even at the low price of $128. I've tried to EQ these cans, just can't find a pleasing sound, too harsh. Also headphones are very uncomfortable. Going back to Amazon. No real competition to my Meze 99 Neo's after EQ... But I gave these to my son. Perhaps I'll try the 371.... Just trying to find a reasonably prices set of closed over ear cans.... Happy to take some recommendations.