Nice turntables. Attached picture is an absolute requirement.

[DanielT]

Speaking of Luxor. I saw a young girl who carried a Luxor Dirigent (Luxor Conductor) up to her apartment last summer.Luxor Dirigent was an all in one solution
,a receiver and record player together. Common in the 1970s, mostly for those who wanted sound but didn't care about HiFi. There were loads of them at flea markets a number of years ago. Now I hardly see any of them. Presumably, it is young people who have fallen for the vinyl craze who bought them.

Here's a Luxor Dirigent, model 3000. Maybe not the sexiest audio gadget, but it was (and the ones left) in many homes:

Then that girl had to tinker with getting DIN speaker connectors together. Not that difficult, but it's a bit fiddly because it's so small. For those of you who don't know what it looks like, check the attached pictures. DIN next to modern banana plug.You don't screw thick speaker cables into the DINs, I can promise that it won't work.

 

[Balle Clorin]

Warning, blingy , as so many other it is basing sales on looks, not performance, even the cheapest Projects are much better than this. How could this happen? This kind of wow is clearly audible, a the review had only high praises , I wonder if I ever played piano music or flute during the review, then the high wow would be noticeable.
Yet again a proof that subjective reviews are worthless…

Musical Fidelity M8xTT Turntable Lab Report

Lab Report While the M8xTT's architectural DNA can clearly be traced back to the M1, including its retention of an inverted bearing, this latest version benefits from improved tolerances and materials. Notably, the 'joined platters' are alloy here, not acrylic, taking the rotating mass to 10kg...

www.hifinews.com

 

[DHT 845]

Roksan Radius 7
"the sleek tinted glass design adds a pop of colour to your interiors and has a stunning LED light feature to indicate different Vinyl speeds – its also sold in green"

 

[DHT 845]

RIFFAUD Intemporelle II
beautifull...

 

[DHT 845]

RIFFAUD Saturn

 

[DHT 845]

RIFFAUD Epure

 

[JP]

That one reminds me of street artists doing caricatures.

 

[DanielT]

Warning, blingy , as so many other it is basing sales on looks, not performance, even the cheapest Projects are much better than this. How could this happen? This kind of wow is clearly audible, a the review had only high praises , I wonder if I ever played piano music or flute during the review, then the high wow would be noticeable.
Yet again a proof that subjective reviews are worthless…
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RIFFAUD Saturn
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RIFFAUD Epure
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Musical Fidelity M8xTT Turntable Lab Report

Lab Report While the M8xTT's architectural DNA can clearly be traced back to the M1, including its retention of an inverted bearing, this latest version benefits from improved tolerances and materials. Notably, the 'joined platters' are alloy here, not acrylic, taking the rotating mass to 10kg...

www.hifinews.com

Roksan Radius 7
"the sleek tinted glass design adds a pop of colour to your interiors and has a stunning LED light feature to indicate different Vinyl speeds – its also sold in green"
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They were cool, somewhat esoteric turntables.

To counter that, I take two more "down to earth" turntables. Perhaps not so exciting and you probably know the models, but hey they can also be included in the thread (they have probably already figured). Utility turntables, workhorses:

Dual 1019

I remember that many had the Dual 505 model :

 

[lftlnr]

They were cool, somewhat esoteric turntables.

To counter that, I take two more "down to earth" turntables. Perhaps not so exciting and you probably know the models, but hey they can also be included in the thread (they have probably already figured). Utility turntables, workhorses:

Dual 1019
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I remember that many had the Dual 505 model :
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Nice, My 1019 is still rockin' 55 years after I bought it. Automatic record changer stacker died some time in the '70s. I only play one record at a time anyway.

 

[DanielT]

Thorens TD 202 in glossy walnut. Unfortunately not available for sale in North America.

£573

Thorens TD 202 Walnut-Gloss - £609 - Muziker

Thorens TD 202 Walnut-Gloss ✓ Best Price Guarantee ✓ Fast shipping ✓ Return policy up to 30 days ✓ Professional customer service ✓ 25 years on the market

www.muziker.co.uk

Thorens TD 202 walnut

Manual plug and play record player Solid frame, Pre-installed Audio Technica AT 95 E cartridge, Matching phono preamplifier, Drive: flat belt (inside), Electronically controlled DC motor, Speeds: 33-1 / 3, 45rpm, Switching: electronic, Turntable...

www.thomann.de

THORENS® TD 202

The official Thorens® website: Turntables, Electronic, Accessories

www.thorens.com

 

[rdenney]

So many of these with the 3-4-inch-thick platters and machined metal weights...Do they depend only on mass to damp external vibration? They'd need automotive springs to suspend them, or three inches of Sorbothane. And the motor looks big enough to run my washing machine. How does a motor that large not make noise? The belt is too small for that platter mass--it must be TIGHT to keep from slipping, which further couples the motor to the platter. My South Bend lathe uses three belts to connect the 2-horsepower motor to the lower driveshaft, and a 2"-wide flat belt to connect that to the spindle. Seems like these folks need to learn from that

The little motor on my Thorens would just sit there a buzz, unless the belt slipped, trying to accelerate those platters from stopped.

Speaking of my South Bend lathe, I bet I could turn a slick chunk of brass into five pounds of weight to put over the LP. That would bottom out the suspension springs (since suspension seems to be unimportant) and give that motor a chance to earn its pay. That motor would add in electro-magnetic slip what the weight took out in warp, it seems to me.

Putting mass in the plinth seems to me a whole other thing. I recall Kenwood's concrete plinth in days of yore. Tempting...

Rick "mass-loaded vinyl has great damping characteristics" Denney

 

[Killingbeans]

The belt is too small for that platter mass--it must be TIGHT to keep from slipping, which further couples the motor to the platter.

I generally don't understand why belt driven turntables are still a thing.

If I was forced to own a turntable, I'd get a Technics SL-1210 MK7 and never look back.

 

[TulseLuper]

I generally don't understand why belt driven turntables are still a thing.

If I was forced to own a turntable, I'd get a Technics SL-1210 MK7 and never look back.

1500C and 1210 Mk7 here. Other than wild Michell tables, everything else is irrelevant to me.

 

[AaronJ]

I generally don't understand why belt driven turntables are still a thing.

If I was forced to own a turntable, I'd get a Technics SL-1210 MK7 and never look back.

When it comes to expensive systems, separate components are essential. Separate power supplies for your phono stage and DAC. Separate preamp (also two boxes) from your power amp. The turntable's motor naturally must follow suit, and there's no way to do that with direct-drive.

 

[TulseLuper]

Don't forget separate solar panels.

 

[JP]

When it comes to expensive systems, separate components are essential. Separate power supplies for your phono stage and DAC. Separate preamp (also two boxes) from your power amp. The turntable's motor naturally must follow suit, and there's no way to do that with direct-drive.

SP-10MKII/2A/3, L-07D, TX-1000 to name a handful.

 

[Prana Ferox]

I generally don't understand why belt driven turntables are still a thing.

If I was forced to own a turntable, I'd get a Technics SL-1210 MK7 and never look back.

Belt drives, the more visible and spindly the better, are a thing for much the same reason turntables at all are. Think of it as a more normie version of steampunk.

 

[Killingbeans]

Yeah I know. Oldie but goldie:

 

[Anton D]

Man, does every discussion about vinyl stir up the SINAD Flies?

You are one of the ten plagues, I am sure.

 

[Angsty]

I generally don't understand why belt driven turntables are still a thing.

If I was forced to own a turntable, I'd get a Technics SL-1210 MK7 and never look back.

Belt drives can be easier to manufacture with low motor noise than direct drives, especially for small manufacturers. Look at what VPI had to charge to develop and manufacture their cog-less direct drive motors.