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Oops yeah just saw @theshakomaster 's message aboveI think the owner said these are essentially new.
Oops yeah just saw @theshakomaster 's message aboveI think the owner said these are essentially new.
The original Pro 4AA didn't have foam in the earpads, it was gel of some sort and very good for a tight seal. Also sweaty ears.I wonder if pad aging has stiffened the interior foam? and is affecting fit and bass response
Now that is really interesting. I am not aware of any headphone that still uses the same gel pad designThe original Pro 4AA didn't have foam in the earpads, it was gel of some sort and very good for a tight seal. Also sweaty ears.
The gell filled pads also makes sense in that context of recording and mixing vocals. both in terms of isolation but also to reduce leakage of sound out to studio mics, etcView attachment 156143
These are great for studio monitoring. They can take a beating, have a clean and articulate sound for voices only without male boominess and shrill highs, no compression and can handle a lot f power. Koss still sells them for $ 99.-
Not suited for anything else than that... listening to spoken word.
It's a specialty headphone, just like some Beyerdynamic DT48 models.
There are other Pro4 models that have a different response.
Below the old (original 4AA) that were fuller sounding
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If you wanted a warm, bassy sound the Pro4AAA did just that.
See Pro4AAA below.
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Or the Pro4S with its deep bass extension and better clarity.
See Pro4S below:
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Form Tyll's archives.
Take into account: no Harman bass compensation and above 1kHz the level isn't correctly displayed due to wrong compensation (target to some) being used.
Folks remembering the Pro4AA to have bass most likely heard the pro4AAA.
This confirms Amirs measurements.
Some history (Pro4, Pro4A etc.)
So at least a 60 year old model? The Beyerdynamic DT-150 is from around 1960 as well. I wonder which headphone is the oldest and still in production today.This is a review and detailed measurements of the KOSS PRO 4AA headphone. It is on kind loan from a member. He bought it used for $10 but then sent it to KOSS and they sent him a new one. In researching it, I found a review (of a different revision) dating back to 1963 yet it is still on sale on Amazon for US $80!
I have sent the DT-150, a model from 1960 or so. The DT-100 is garbage by the way, no need to review. Unless you only use spoken words...View attachment 156127
Speaking of uncomfortable and stiff cans…Anyone have a vintage Beyerdynamic dt 100 or dt108 to send into Amir? They were ubiquitous in recording studios throughout the 70s to mid 80s. Preferably in white as worn by Barry Gibb below. Not that the white plastic sounds different, just because they match white suits and bell bottoms better.
Seriously, I would bee curious to know how the phones and other equipment used to record and mix classic recordings would measure. The results may be a “tragedy”
That is old!DT48.... from 1937 ?
Just like the Pro4 there were several iterations.
Perhaps a bunch of people said so in 1937?and sounds even worse than DT100
Some say... [Jeremy Clarkson style] it is the best headphone ever made.
It was ok, but I probably played Tarkus and Close to the Edge more often.So here is the key question; how well did it play “dark side of the moon”?
My first Grado 60s were a lot of fun, but I felt my ear's cartilage 24/7 even though I only had them on for a tens of minutes each day (for as long as the portable CD-player had juice). They were painful, but I still liked them.The AKG k140 series were probably the most uncomfortable headphones ever made. I think they may have been designed by Dr. Mengele himself.
I still have a pair.