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You need cables to carry power and signal vs one cable carrying both.
I actually have 3 cables(signal, power, and network) per speaker .
You need cables to carry power and signal vs one cable carrying both.
Yes. Amps and cross-over are external.Have there been any pics showing the amps of the Nautilus? Are the amps external?
Thank you!Yes. Amps and cross-over are external.
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Pictures from manual: https://www.bwgroupsupport.com/downloads/manuals/bw/Nautilus-OM.pdf
You need cables to carry power and signal vs one cable carrying both.
An active speaker needn’t have the amp in the cabinet. You can have an external controller-amp. Practically that means up to a 4-way can be a single-cable speaker with off the shelf hardware (8-core speaker cable from Mogami et al., Neutrik Speakon NL8).
My position is once the amplifier/s are outside the one cabinet, the speaker itself is not active.
Otherwise you get a situation where tri-wired 3 ways with and external adjustable crossover and three amplifiers is classed as an active speaker. Or a 2 way with bi-wiring and a DSP running twin amps is also classed as an active speaker. Neither are.
There isn't much benefit to active speakers for hi-fi.
That is not a sensible position
I had a demo about 25 years ago. The speakers are supplied with an analogue active 4-way per speaker crossover and the buyer chooses the amp.Have there been any pics showing the amps of the Nautilus? Are the amps external?
Truth to be said, some advanced filters features cannot really be implemented with a passive crossover.Except that actives perform better than passives, in many cases. Naturally it is not because they are active (amped), but because they have been designed well and use dsp.
If I had those, I think I'd want use use them with Behringer A500 amps, pour epater les bourgeois !I had a demo about 25 years ago. The speakers are supplied with an analogue active 4-way per speaker crossover and the buyer chooses the amp.
I very much wanted to buy them since I love the styling but they didn't sound as good as the other speaker in the comparison and the cost of the 8-channels of amplifier recommended by the dealer demonstrating them was huge.
If I had had the possibility of inexpensive powerful enough amps back then I may well have bought them, just for the styling! The Epilogs are somewhat pedestrian in comparison.If I had those, I think I'd want use use them with Behringer A500 amps, pour epater les bourgeois !
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Honestly, I don't want to sound patronizing, because I'm sure you already know that and I sincerly don't know why you purposedly confuse "powered" and "active". Active just refers to "active" crossovers, this isn't a matter of opinion.To you maybe. Not to me.
An active speaker is a single device, hence the singular term. If the product is comprised of an external amplifier/Xover and a speaker cabinet, it's an active speaker system. It is not an active speaker.
Bi-amplified or tri-amplified can be also implemented with a passive crossover with electrically separated branches as often seen with loudspeakers with more than a pair of connecting posts.Unless you want everyone to use "bi-amplified" or "tri-amplified" for some reason?
Isn't it bi|tri-wired, then?Bi-amplified or tri-amplified can be also implemented with a passive crossover with electrically separated branches as often seen with loudspeakers with more than a pair of connecting posts.
because I'm sure you already know that and I sincerly don't know why you purposedly confuse "powered" and "active". Active just refers to "active" crossovers, this isn't a matter of opinion.