At what output!?But hey you can charge your phone with it. There's that.
Pretty savage for the price.This lands the unit in the middle of our "fair" category:
Ah so it has Bluetooth? Can we maybe get a test of that @amirm? Not sure if you have any tests setup for BT yet.This is usually the case when the amplifier is in Bluetooth connection mode.
So you plug the Chromecast Audio in and then feed the Coax input with it? What about now that the Chromecast audio is discontinued?Originally, the device once had an Ethernet interface and a built-in Chromecast streaming function. However, Google did not like that very much. Therefore, there is now the USB socket for powering an external Chromecast streaming stick.
Looks like the USB can be used for firmware updates also?or interested readers, here are a few pictures of the amp's inner workings.
What had Google did to communicate their unhappiness to you?Originally, the device once had an Ethernet interface and a built-in Chromecast streaming function. However, Google did not like that very much.
Without knowing for sure, the amplifier should have been launched around 2018. Yes, you're right, the USB port doesn't really make sense. What certainly the manufacturer has thought, I can not tell you more precisely.So you plug the Chromecast Audio in and then feed the Coax input with it? What about now that the Chromecast audio is discontinued?
I have not seen any instructions for an update, nor any firmware file.Looks like the USB can be used for firmware updates also?
I do not know if Google is happy or unhappy with me ;-)What had Google did to communicate their unhappiness to you? For that matter, are you the manufacturer or an owner that is privy to manufacturer’s development of the product?
Weird, so they didn't want Chromecast on Ethernet? What if they allowed both wifi and Ethernet? I mean Ethernet adapters for Chromecast exist.I do not know if Google is happy or unhappy with me ;-)
According to NAD, Google had made it a requirement that Chromecast not be installed with a wired network connection. The first series still came with an Ethernet port and later this disappeared and was replaced by the USB socket. If you do some searching on the internet you will find pictures showing both variants as well as information about the modification I described.
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That is my state of knowledge. Unfortunately, I can only speculate about everything else. In the NAD AMP1 manual, the Ethernet jack is still visible. NAD now uses (exclusively) WLAN. Argon Audio has done it without Chromecast, and included the USB jack. In the Argon Audio SA1 manual, this is noted as a power supply for a Google Chromecast Stick.Weird, so they didn't want Chromecast on Ethernet? What if they allowed both wifi and Ethernet? I mean Ethernet adapters for Chromecast exist.
My understanding would be that it would have Chrome cast buit in, like many TVs do… Unless I’m not grasping the fine prints.My bet would be that Ethernet only streaming doesn’t cut it for chrome cast licensing and they want to be in products that can receive a cast wirelessly. If you buy a stick you remediate to that, but then it’s not a chromecast device at all.Weird, so they didn't want Chromecast on Ethernet? What if they allowed both wifi and Ethernet? I mean Ethernet adapters for Chromecast exist.
Yeah I mean lots of TVs have Chromecast built in through the Android tv. I'm not sure why they would be upset with it being inside of an amp. But they did discontinue Chromecast audio so maybe they have other intentions.My understanding would be that it would have Chrome ast buit in, like many TVs do… Unless I’m bot grasping the fine prints.
I did not even think about that. However you are definitely rightA product where the digital inputs cannot take a 0dBFS signal without severly clipping is beyond poor. The fact that Amir had to wind down the digital level to -12dBFS to get sensible THD numbers rules it out as broken by design.
I think you get the idea, I elaborated a bit more but the Idea is Google can do whatever they want, It’s google.Yeah I mean lots of TVs have Chromecast built in through the Android tv. I'm not sure why they would be upset with it being inside of an amp. But they did discontinue Chromecast audio so maybe they have other intentions.
That would be true, but Amir had no volume control at all, with an hypothesis that it could be « operator error » I don’t think we have enough to reach this conclusion, but in all case, it should not be like that.A product where the digital inputs cannot take a 0dBFS signal without severly clipping is beyond poor. The fact that Amir had to wind down the digital level to -12dBFS to get sensible THD numbers rules it out as broken by design.
That would be true, but Amir had no volume control at all, with an hypothesis that it could be « operator error » I don’t think we have enough to reach this conclusion, but in all case, it should not be like that.
Ah, this is a Danish company been around for 20 years, and I had assumed the name comes from the element : Argon atomic number 18; but was from the winning name of a naming competition ; I am unclear if it’s actually manutactured in Denmark, as the website says designed and engineered , not made in DenmarkI like the style of this as well. Nice features for the price with a known brand. It's far from "broken".
OH, clever bastards! I thought this was an Aragon. Shame on them for gas lighting me with "Argon". MAD!!!
I agree with you, just saying that we don’t know nothing about the gain structure. We know that 0DBFS is clipping, when used as a preamp when there are no attenuation. Not saying it’s right, but we can’t conclude a 0DBFS is automatically clipping. they may want to do level compensation with the analog ins.Amir would back (attenutated) the digital signal sent from the AP to -12dBFS.
No D/A converter should be heavily clipping at 0dBFS and certainly the attached internal preamplifier should not clip its outputs when driven by the internal D/A. It just makes no sense and harks of poor design. Even if they implemented a hidden 'high gain output' which Amir wasn't aware of, the outputs still should not clip.
That would be the idea. Unless it is actually maybe converting the analog input to digital and then back to analog again? There have been a couple devices that have done this for no specific reasonI think this is pretty poor, because In my opinion the analog input shouldn't be losing that much performance over the DAC input. If anything it should be better.
I always go to the source instead of accepting what a manufacturer says about a 3rd party system they use. Nor I trust hearsay on the Internet forums.According to NAD, Google had made it a requirement that Chromecast not be installed with a wired network connection. The first series still came with an Ethernet port and later this disappeared and was replaced by the USB socket. If you do some searching on the internet you will find pictures showing both variants as well as information about the modification I described.
The term Receiver refers to an app running on a Cast-enabled device that is responsible for responding to Sender commands and for conveying streaming content from an online streaming service to the Cast-enabled device. Examples of Cast-enabled Receiver devices include Chromecasts, smart televisions, smart screens, and smart speakers.