In-Ear Fidelity – Headphone Graph Comparison Tool
Easily compare industry-standard frequency response measurements of hundreds and hundreds of headphones.crinacle.com
That 12k spike is scary. The Og Arya is already a bit too bright.
In-Ear Fidelity – Headphone Graph Comparison Tool
Easily compare industry-standard frequency response measurements of hundreds and hundreds of headphones.crinacle.com
That really doesn't make sense unless you found the 300mW to be too quiet. If the power is unused, then it is unused. As long as the amplifier has enough dynamic headroom to reach the desired playback volume without clipping or other audible distortion any unused power left in the amplifier means nothing. I use a 180W amplifier with my headphones directly powering them from the speaker terminals and I can tell you that when compared to a normal headphone amplifier, I don't hear any benefit from the unused wattage available. What scientific principle are you suggesting is at play with having unused power left available? This sounds like a head-fi theory.View attachment 204089
Finally unlocked Arya v2 full potential with topping d10 balanced DAC, topping a30 pro AMP
Pure distortion free audio chain, only my ears starts to distorts at high volume.
Came to know that Arya really require minimum 3Watt per channel to fully unlock its potential.
Funny thing is i thought 300mW was sufficient when i brought it
Did your previous headphone amp only top out at 300mW? Do you know what your max output voltage was of your previous amp after it had your previous DAC connected to it?View attachment 204089
Finally unlocked Arya v2 full potential with topping d10 balanced DAC, topping a30 pro AMP
Pure distortion free audio chain, only my ears starts to distorts at high volume.
Came to know that Arya really require minimum 3Watt per channel to fully unlock its potential.
Funny thing is i thought 300mW was sufficient when i brought it
I do agree with you I think, as 3Watt should not be necessary for these headphones.That really doesn't make sense unless you found the 300mW to be too quiet. If the power is unused, then it is unused. As long as the amplifier has enough dynamic headroom to reach the desired playback volume without clipping or other audible distortion any unused power left in the amplifier means nothing. I use a 180W amplifier with my headphones directly powering them from the speaker terminals and I can tell you that when compared to a normal headphone amplifier, I don't hear any benefit from the unused wattage available. What scientific principle are you suggesting is at play with having unused power left available? This sounds like a head-fi theory.
Thanks, was just editing my post as you were typing. Well in that case, these headphones should be no problem to drive then.@Robbo99999 neither the Arya v2, nor the Arya Stealth is 90dB/Vrms. Hifiman rates the original Arya at 90dB/mW. Here's what others have measured:
View attachment 204175
Thanks, was just editing my post as you were typing. Well in that case, these headphones should be no problem to drive then.
Well, if you use EQ to correct for it then you might need towards 35dB negative preamp. Normally I wouldn't recommend people correct for their hearing in headphone EQ's, not unless you use a hearing aid, as we normally get used to our hearing deficiencies through our own everyday experience, so even if you didn't compensate that area using EQ then it might still sound normal - because that's what you're used to in your everyday life. If you do have a hearing aid because of it, or think you should have one, then it might be a good idea to correct your hearing imbalance in your headphones (and then you wouldn't wear a hearing aid when using your headphones).View attachment 204180
Since my right ears high frequency sensitivity is less that's why i require more amplification i guess.
Theoretically there is the linkage there, but I highly doubt there is any benefit to you from the unused power. You don't selectively get boost in just the frequency region you wish, and just in one ear. Both ears and the total SPL become louder as you play things louder. That doesn't at all negate the fact that if the original 300mW was still adequate for the total SPL you were asking it to produce then that is the whole story right there.View attachment 204180
Since my right ears high frequency sensitivity is less that's why i require more amplification i guess.
Well, if you use EQ to correct for it then you might need towards 35dB negative preamp. Normally I wouldn't recommend people correct for their hearing in headphone EQ's, not unless you use a hearing aid, as we normally get used to our hearing deficiencies through our own everyday experience, so even if you didn't compensate that area using EQ then it might still sound normal - because that's what you're used to in your everyday life. If you do have a hearing aid because of it, or think you should have one, then it might be a good idea to correct your hearing imbalance in your headphones (and then you wouldn't wear a hearing aid when using your headphones).
That is nowhere near, not even in the same realms of deviation that you showed us earlier on the "hearing test". You were up to 30dB difference in one ear above 5kHz, yet in your EQ you're only boosting 4000Hz & 8000Hz by a measily 2dB, and then you're boosting 16 to 20kHz by 4dB (which you probably can't even hear much above 16kHz unless you're young and haven't abused your ears). Yes, so you're not fully nor at all partially correcting your hearing. It seems to me that you're used to your channel imbalance of your ears, like I was talking about in my last post, so maybe that's why it sounds balanced to you even if you're hardly correcting for anything at all in your channel matching EQ. And that doesn't match with what you were intimating earlier about you needing more amp power because you needed to correct for your hearing - presumably with a 30dB negative preamp.....which you're not doing at all because you're hardly correcting for your ear imbalance. Your posts are not really adding up between what you were saying before with what you are showing now. Either way, you certainly don't need a lot of amp power to allow for that tame ear matching EQ you're showing your pic, because no large negative preamp required with that ear matching EQ.View attachment 204492
I tried peace EQ and adjusted right channel high frequency band, sounds balanced now.
Now i no need to crank up volume as before.
I used to drive my v2's with an Emotiva a-100 fed by a Gustard H20's preamp. The Emo's ~12 watts @ 32 ohms made the Arya v2 an altogether different beast in the bass with excellent, mouth-watering control of the drivers. It was hard hitting and started and stopped on a dime. There's something to be said about headroom.View attachment 204089
Finally unlocked Arya v2 full potential with topping d10 balanced DAC, topping a30 pro AMP
Pure distortion free audio chain, only my ears starts to distorts at high volume.
Came to know that Arya really require minimum 3Watt per channel to fully unlock its potential.
Funny thing is i thought 300mW was sufficient when i brought it
Sounds like touting the benefits of a 12 story building when you're staying in the first floor.I used to drive my v2's with an Emotiva a-100 fed by a Gustard H20's preamp. The Emo's ~12 watts @ 32 ohms made the Arya v2 an altogether different beast in the bass with excellent, mouth-watering control of the drivers. It was hard hitting and started and stopped on a dime. There's something to be said about headroom.
There's nothing to be said about unused headroom if it's never needed.There's something to be said about headroom
The Emo's ~12 watts @ 32 ohms made the Arya v2 an altogether different beast in the bass with excellent, mouth-watering control of the drivers.
This. Every now and again I start to imagine an itch, so I start to scratch a bit, then thankfully come back to my senses and not make another impulse huge £££ purchase. The best value upgrade I've made in many years was to subscribe to Roon, for the PEQ. Ultimately, spending more than I have already isn't going to make a crap band suddenly sound great.Rather its worth it to you is subjective, but is the Arya 8 times the sound quality? Nope! is it even twice the sound quality? Nope! so from a value perspective its pretty bad. For argument sake, say its 15% better, that small increase could be all the world to you, and you can't put a price on that 15% extra enjoyment.
I owned the Sundara and Ananda (Similar to Arya), and I did my best to compare them here.
Not at all. What I found by having that extra power on tap was that the Aryas went from sort of polite in it's bass presentation to ultra-dynamic and powerful - it gave me the impression of limitless bass depth, dynamics, and control. Really a sight to behold (beheard, haha).Sounds like touting the benefits of a 12 story building when you're staying in the first floor.
Of course the whole 12 watts can't be used or else I'd go deaf and the drivers would be damaged. It's why I used a preamp in front of the Emo to control overall volume levels. The Arya's planar drivers can make use of substantially more power (current, really) compared to dynamics - and as a result they become different beast altogether. Don't knock it till you've tried it. Which of you is an Arya owner??? Try hooking them up to a speaker amp as an experiment then report back with what you find.There's nothing to be said about unused headroom if it's never needed.
Which can only mean either your impressions are incorrect or you were actually using more power/ voltage . Or possibly one of the 2 amps is colouring the sound.Not at all. What I found by having that extra power on tap was that the Aryas went from sort of polite in it's bass presentation to ultra-dynamic and powerful - it gave me the impression of limitless bass depth, dynamics, and control. Really a sight to behold (beheard, haha).