And when built replace that oil, natural gas and coal thousands fold for decades with very little or no earth destroying combustion.Oil, natural gas, and coal are needed to produce the concrete, steel, plastics, and purified minerals used to build
green machines. The energy equivalent of 100 barrels of oil is used in the processes to fabricate a single battery
that can store the equivalent of one barrel of oil.
Had a Saab modified to burn propane with gasoline as a back up. Refuelling stations were plentiful and easy to find. While burning propane is not as efficient as burning gasoline the harmful emissions were much lower + propane was much cheaper than gasoline. No engine modifications were needed the installation was completed in a day.Some run on propane too.
There is no free lunch. All forms of energy creation and usage result in some form of natural resource extraction, waste, heat generation, etc. The goal is to work for efficiencies and lessen impacts.Zero Emissions is a joke.
No one wants to talk about emissions and pollution being created by generating all the electricity.
It's all just a BS political football.
And all our garbage trucks run on methane. Or propane.Some cars run on hydrogen. And some cars run on both gasoline and batteries.
It's all part of the same syndrome, indeed. And the comparison in efficiency is even more in favor of electric cars. The first transistors weren't great, either. I used some of them in the 1960's time frame. Delicate, low-gain, slow little things.I've seen at least a dozen burned up ICE autos over the years, a number at the Eisenhower tunnel.
People said going from Tubes to solid state would never happen either. And that digital audio sucked vs. analog. Oh, well.
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Although these fires do present a real danger, fortunately for us they remain very rare.
Watched a slot on the news yesterday about the dangers involved with Lithium batteries. They showed footage of a mobile phone exploding at a recycling centre, genuinely scary. It explode flew about 20’ onto another conveyer narrowly missing several people. EVs are an environment disaster waiting to happen. Even if you ignore the environmental damage done by the mining for it, that’s happening now!
Zero Emissions is a joke.
No one wants to talk about emissions and pollution being created by generating all the electricity.
It's all just a BS political football.
There is no free lunch. All forms of energy creation and usage result in some form of natural resource extraction, waste, heat generation, etc. The goal is to work for efficiencies and lessen impacts.
This will happen, but nothing happens overnight.
I find this article factual but a bit skewed, not condemning it. Here is a deeper analysis with more through research with eight studies as inputs listed at the end.There is no free lunch. All forms of energy creation and usage result in some form of natural resource extraction, waste, heat generation, etc. The goal is to work for efficiencies and lessen impacts.
This will happen, but nothing happens overnight.
Emissions worldwide: Gas vs. battery-electric vehicles
Gasoline vehicles would produce lower emissions than the average battery-electric vehicle only if their fuel economy was higher than 51.5 mpg worldwide, say researchers at the University of Michigan.news.umich.edu
Ultimately it will come down to price, consumer choice and impacts. Battery efficiency is improving dramatically, and that will continue.
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Give it a rest? Trying to inject a sense of realism into the debate. Too many look at EVs as the perfect solution with no drawbacks, wait until it comes to recycling the billions of tonnes of waste products from scrapping these enormous batteries. What will happen to the materials that cannot be recycled? Will we end up dumping them in the Third World as we do now with electronic waste?Really, now, about the fracking, the carbon pollution, the spills, the refinery wastes, etc? Why do you guys always ignore the massive, probably irrevocable harm done by burning your favorite hydrocarbon, anyhow? The whole "they are expensive to make" argument applies just as well and just as bad to making a small-block chevy. Give it a rest.,
Hear, hear, and hydrocarbon burning in an IC engine is just horribly inefficient, even aside from the whole fact we're wrecking our own atmosphere that we need to breathe. I suggest that nobody buys any seafront property any time soon!
The Swiss Government is putting legislation in front of Parliament to ban the recharging EVs when their National Grid is nearing its capacity. We are told in the UK, domestic EV charging points can be remotely switched off of the National Grid looks like being swamped.This scare tactic has been said for decades. Yet waterfront property is still there after all the projections that said they were supposed to be underwater decades ago.
Oil is plentiful and less costly to extract, why not use it until we have something that actually can replace it? The fact of the matter is we don't have anything in place that can actually replace hydrocarbons and until we do why not take advantage of the natural resources? What leaves the tailpipe is mostly CO2 which plants breathe. They need to live also. We give them CO2 to breathe they give us Oxygen, symbiotic relationship.
The claim batteries will come down in price is ridiculous since they need rare earth metals, key word rare. If everyone is forced to go EV then the demand will increase far beyond the supply and price would substantially increase.
Our grid can't even handle the EV cars now. Look at California, they ask not to charge your car or else it causes blackouts and brownouts and you people want everyone to drive one? It's a bad joke all day long from the climate cultists.
Give it a rest? Trying to inject a sense of realism into the debate. Too many look at EVs as the perfect solution with no drawbacks ...
Our grid can't even handle the EV cars now. Look at California, they ask not to charge your car or else it causes blackouts and brownouts and you people want everyone to drive one? It's a bad joke all day long from the climate cultists.
Rare earth metals are not actually, but they are environmentally messy to mine. (Just one link of many) :The claim batteries will come down in price is ridiculous since they need rare earth metals, key word rare. If everyone is forced to go EV then the demand will increase far beyond the supply and price would substantially increase.
The grid readiness issue is real, and will likely get worse for quite a while before it gets better.Our grid can't even handle the EV cars now. Look at California, they ask not to charge your car or else it causes blackouts and brownouts and you people want everyone to drive one? It's a bad joke all day long from the climate cultists.
This scare tactic has been said for decades. Yet waterfront property is still there after all the projections that said they were supposed to be underwater decades ago.
The Swiss Government is putting legislation in front of Parliament to ban the recharging EVs when their National Grid is nearing its capacity. We are told in the UK, domestic EV charging points can be remotely switched off of the National Grid looks like being swamped.