What to choose between Denon X6700H and X4800H?

[Gigicoltz]

But I saw the stiker 8k on a X6700H. Isn't it hdmi 2.1?

only one HDMI port in 2.1, is labelled as 8k

 

[ArturoKiwi]

only one HDMI port in 2.1, is labelled as 8k

So it is 8k capable and everyone could plug their 8k console. How many 8k input devices do you have?

 

[ArturoKiwi]

I think that we must remember that also high end gear like the AV8805A has limited 8k hdmi. But at the moment is more than enough for the most people

 

[Gigicoltz]

So it is 8k capable and everyone could plug their 8k console. How many 8k input devices do you have?

Only 1.

 

[ArturoKiwi]

So

Only 1.

So I think a X6700H could be a very capable receiver for you.
Many people more expert than me say that a good tuned Audissey is better than other room correction or you'll obtain same results that spend 850$ more for Dirac + DLBC.
But that is my 0.1cent opinion, based on the delusion of the new lineup

 

[Gigicoltz]

So

So I think a X6700H could be a very capable receiver for you.
Many people more expert than me say that a good tuned Audissey is better than other room correction or you'll obtain same results that spend 850$ more for Dirac + DLBC.
But that is my 0.1cent opinion, based on the delusion of the new lineup

Thanks a lot for your opinion.

 

[symphara]

I would buy the 4800. You have the option of choosing between Audyssey and Dirac. They might be equally good, or perhaps not. Dirac is in (very) active development, Audyssey is not quite.

It's true that you have to pay for the Dirac upgrade, but to the best of my knowledge this comes with the ability to adjust the target curve (and more) on the computer. If you want this with Audyssey, it also costs $199.

 

[dbeshans]

Both X3800H and X4800H would do it for you. 4800 will give you better material build quality (not performance) and analog inputs if you have legacy sources you wish to connect. You'll need an external amplifier to drive the two extra channels when you go to 11. You might want to use that opportunity to get a bigger amp to drive your LCR mains and leave the surround/height channels to the AVR.

Great idea. Ready to pull the trigger myself on a 4800 I may well use my Outlaw Audio 5000 to power my LCR speakers which are 91.5 db efficient (6 ohm) so it's kind of academic anyway. But should help the 4800 run cooler.

 

[dbeshans]

Not having a Dirac option will lower the value of the 6700 in resale. While it is an option you have to pay for, which is annoying, it is still a great option.
Of course, we have to know the next line of Denon/Marantz will have Dirac built in, nothing like rubbing our noses in it.

Take away the 'room correction' option, either receiver should do a commendable job.

 

[somy]

On the same boat to replace my Onkyo TX-NR906 (HDMI stops working). I only have 5.1 speakers and I use my stereo amp to drive the main speakers, so only need the AVR to drive the rest 3.1. No plan to upgrade to more channels, and I have an old non-HDR 1080P projector. Any thoughts?

 

[onion]

I'd suggest the X3800 + a power amp for LCR over X4800

 

[RMW_NJ]

I’m also considering the 6700 vs. 4800 vs. 3800. I’m leaning towards the 6700…I’m not a gamer so one 8K input would likely be fine (if 8K ever even scales broadly). And it’s unlikely I would ever pay for Dirac. 6700 tested better than the 3800/4800 and pricing is sinking like a stone. But still considering all options.

 

[RMW_NJ]

I’m also considering the 6700 vs. 4800 vs. 3800. I’m leaning towards the 6700…I’m not a gamer so one 8K input would likely be fine (if 8K ever even scales broadly). And it’s unlikely I would ever pay for Dirac. 6700 tested better than the 3800/4800 and pricing is sinking like a stone. But still considering all options.

 

[ban25]

I’m also considering the 6700 vs. 4800 vs. 3800. I’m leaning towards the 6700…I’m not a gamer so one 8K input would likely be fine (if 8K ever even scales broadly). And it’s unlikely I would ever pay for Dirac. 6700 tested better than the 3800/4800 and pricing is sinking like a stone. But still considering all options.

Any 6700 you buy these days will have the same TI DAC as the 3800 and 4800... The test results you see here are for a unit manufactured back in 2020.

 

[fyton2v]

Just went through this debate and bought the 4800. The two main things drove me to the 4800 vs the others are: The amplifier design on the 4800 (vs the 3800) and the perception that it will be more reliable, and the HD GUI vs the 6700.

The 3800 seems like a great deal right now... even though the price increases in home theater tech over the last few years have been nuts. You can catch sales on the 3800. But over the realistic life of the AVR ... the price difference becomes less meaningful. And since the x800 series has the latest stuff, we won't need a new one for several years, hopefully.

 

[RMW_NJ]

Just went through this debate and bought the 4800. The two main things drove me to the 4800 vs the others are: The amplifier design on the 4800 (vs the 3800) and the perception that it will be more reliable, and the HD GUI vs the 6700.

The 3800 seems like a great deal right now... even though the price increases in home theater tech over the last few years have been nuts. You can catch sales on the 3800. But over the realistic life of the AVR ... the price difference becomes less meaningful. And since the x800 series has the latest stuff, we won't need a new one for several years, hopefully.

I’m actually leaning towards the 4800 now too. I’ve had a 4400 for 5+ years and the only reason I’m considering upgrading is because I’m getting a new external amp and like the ability to shut off unused internal amps on the new Denon’s. There were 3800 refurbs available for $1050 which I would have pulled the trigger on but missed that deal.

Also considering the Onkyo TX-RZ50 which seems to have a solid preamp circuit, but for whatever reason I have a bias against the brand.

 

[Kal-L]

Jumping in this thread (also my very first post) as well because I’m struggling with a similar dilemma. So I’m putting in a 7.1.4 system and need an AVR to drive it. I’m limited to Denon, Marantz Cinema 50 only, or technically Athem as they are the only AVRs that can fit in my media cabinet (16” D). I’m primarily focused on the D&M options. The choices as I see it are:
1) the aging x6700h as a single box solution ($3k)
2) the x4800h as a processor with an 11 channel BasX A11 ($3800)
3) the Cinema 50 as a processor with an 11 channel BasX A11 ($3800)
4) wait four weeks till CEDIA 23 when x6800h might be announced ($ unknown, availability unknown)
5) something you all know that I’m clearly missing

Speakers are all efficient LCR 94dB 4ohm 20-140 watt recommended, surround and heights 89dB 4ohm 20-200 watt recommended. The only other thing is my AVR will be out in the open, so I will give an extra point to Marantz for cosmetics all other things being equal. And I do game on an PS5, but it’s my only HDMI 2.1 device at the moment. All thoughts are welcome!

 

[Chrispy]

My first thoughts are that if you want better amp sections, go with the pre-outs on a lower version of Marantz/Denon avrs as the built in amp sections aren't all that different (let alone those of BasX amps). I'd always just suggest with the avr with a full set of pre-outs and the feature set you want otherwise....you can always add more powerful amps if needed. Lower impedance speakers at higher volume levels and distances from speakers tend to make me think of external amps, but significantly more powerful ones not just the 8oh wpc rating, but actual low impedance ratings (which you won't find in avrs). All depends on your listening levels, distances from speakers, etc more than just what avr/amp....

 

[delta76]

Jumping in this thread (also my very first post) as well because I’m struggling with a similar dilemma. So I’m putting in a 7.1.4 system and need an AVR to drive it. I’m limited to Denon, Marantz Cinema 50 only, or technically Athem as they are the only AVRs that can fit in my media cabinet (16” D). I’m primarily focused on the D&M options. The choices as I see it are:
1) the aging x6700h as a single box solution ($3k)
2) the x4800h as a processor with an 11 channel BasX A11 ($3800)
3) the Cinema 50 as a processor with an 11 channel BasX A11 ($3800)
4) wait four weeks till CEDIA 23 when x6800h might be announced ($ unknown, availability unknown)
5) something you all know that I’m clearly missing

Speakers are all efficient LCR 94dB 4ohm 20-140 watt recommended, surround and heights 89dB 4ohm 20-200 watt recommended. The only other thing is my AVR will be out in the open, so I will give an extra point to Marantz for cosmetics all other things being equal. And I do game on an PS5, but it’s my only HDMI 2.1 device at the moment. All thoughts are welcome!

x4800h is fully capable to drive 7.4.4, let alone 7.1.4. you can add a 2 channel amp for LR, or 3 for LCR, if you want to, but it's not required. save your money for better speaker, or additional sub.

 

[Kal-L]

x4800h is fully capable to drive 7.4.4, let alone 7.1.4. you can add a 2 channel amp for LR, or 3 for LCR, if you want to, but it's not required. save your money for better speaker, or additional sub.

The x4800h can process 11 channels, but only has 9 channels of amplification. To run an 11.1 (7.1.4) setup I’d need to at minimum add a 2 channel amp. Same of course with the Cinema 50. Only reason I’d add an A11 vs an A2 is they happen to be the same size, so I’d just rather future proof by adding in all the channels of amplification. The cost variance is also rather small. Only the X6700h in the scenarios I listed above can process and power the whole setup, which is convenient, but it’s also few years old at this point.