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What are the thingamabobs called you can use on some speakers to adjust the gain of the high frequencies?

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So I have a pair of speakers that have the option to adjust the gain of high frequencies by one or two dB by putting the thingamabobs in a certain position (see image).
Does anyone know what these are called? I seem to have lost mine and would like to buy a pair, that is if they are sold seperately.
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Switches? ;-)
 

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Often done with L-pads (fixed or variable)

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Sometimes with (single) switched, fixed resistances (e.g., the famous, and justly so, Dynaco A-25 -- one of the best-selling loudspeakers yet produced).

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(both borrowed images)

In terms of the OP's question -- I suspect the posts above have nailed it. :)
 

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I've never seen anything like that...

Did you just get one per speaker or did you get a selection?

It could be a resistor or maybe a shunt (just a wire or a short circuit).

Passive crossovers have capacitors, inductors, and sometimes resistors. That thing looks too small to contain an inductor or capacitor. If you put a resistor in parallel with an existing resistor the total resistance decreases, which would mean more signal to the tweeter.

Similarly, a shunt of short across a resistor makes the total resistance zero. This is my guess... A shunt... Basically just a piece of wire to bypass an internal resistor.

You're really in the dark having lost the originals but those look like banana jacks. The mating banana plugs usually have screw-connections so you can easily create a shunt with a short piece of wire.

You could also attach a resistor to the banana plug but we don't know the value. If it's a resistor it would probably be a few Ohms, and you'd probably want about a 2W resistor. Most of the power would go to the tweeter and any internal resistors so it shouldn't have to be high power, but you probably wouldn't a 1/4W resistor either.
 

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I've never seen anything like that...

Did you just get one per speaker or did you get a selection?

It could be a resistor or maybe a shunt (just a wire or a short circuit).

Passive crossovers have capacitors, inductors, and sometimes resistors. That thing looks too small to contain an inductor or capacitor. If you put a resistor in parallel with an existing resistor the total resistance decreases, which would mean more signal to the tweeter.

Similarly, a shunt of short across a resistor makes the total resistance zero. This is my guess... A shunt... Basically just a piece of wire to bypass an internal resistor.

You're really in the dark having lost the originals but those look like banana jacks. The mating banana plugs usually have screw-connections so you can easily create a shunt with a short piece of wire.

You could also attach a resistor to the banana plug but we don't know the value. If it's a resistor it would probably be a few Ohms, and you'd probably want about a 2W resistor. Most of the power would go to the tweeter and any internal resistors so it shouldn't have to be high power, but you probably wouldn't a 1/4W resistor either.
all good & interesting thoughts!
Perhaps it is in fact a shunt in the sense of a jumper -- i.e.,adding components to the default (unjumpered) XO and/or taking components out of the XO; like a jumper on a PC board or DIP switch (I am probably dating myself now).

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Perhaps it is in fact a shunt in the sense of a jumper -- i.e.,adding components to the default (unjumpered) XO and/or taking components out of the XO; like a jumper on a PC board or DIP switch (I am probably dating myself now).
I'm pretty sure you nailed it there, it's just a jumper. But possible it includes a resistor internally also.
@BrainBugs, a close up pic of the "thingamabob" might reveal it.
In any case if you really want a name for it I'd call it a "tone control" ;)
 
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I've never seen anything like that...

Did you just get one per speaker or did you get a selection?

It could be a resistor or maybe a shunt (just a wire or a short circuit).

Passive crossovers have capacitors, inductors, and sometimes resistors. That thing looks too small to contain an inductor or capacitor. If you put a resistor in parallel with an existing resistor the total resistance decreases, which would mean more signal to the tweeter.

Similarly, a shunt of short across a resistor makes the total resistance zero. This is my guess... A shunt... Basically just a piece of wire to bypass an internal resistor.

You're really in the dark having lost the originals but those look like banana jacks. The mating banana plugs usually have screw-connections so you can easily create a shunt with a short piece of wire.

You could also attach a resistor to the banana plug but we don't know the value. If it's a resistor it would probably be a few Ohms, and you'd probably want about a 2W resistor. Most of the power would go to the tweeter and any internal resistors so it shouldn't have to be high power, but you probably wouldn't a 1/4W resistor either.
I just got one per speaker. They do indeed look very much like banana plugs.
Found something on the internet where they are referred to as jumpers, so @mhardy6647 nailed it :),.
You can use them like this btw:
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I think I will email the manufacturer to ask if I can buy a pair of these cause they seem to be quite rare.
Thank you all for your input, much appreciated.
@Sal1950 : I can't find close up pics unfortunately.
 

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I think I will email the manufacturer to ask if I can buy a pair of these cause they seem to be quite rare.
You can make these jumpers yourself from a little good wire and a couple of banana connectors.
 
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You can make these jumpers yourself from a little good wire and a couple of banana connectors.
So some speaker wire and banana plugs? If the manufacturer won't sell them I wil try that, thnx :).
 

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My XTZ speakers have jumpers. They are just connections for the crossover board behind the faceplate. They are essentially linked banana plugs. Yours were probably similar - so wire and banana plugs would probably work fine.

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My XTZ speakers have jumpers. They are just connections for the crossover board behind the faceplate. They are essentially linked banana plugs. Yours were probably similar - so wire and banana plugs would probably work fine.

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They look very similar to the ones I had. Thnx!
 

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Update: Just got an email form the manufacturer (Phonar), they will be sending me a pair for free :). Kudos to Phonar!
Super! If the housing is translucent as it appeared in your first post, take a picture so we can see whats in it.
Just curious if it's simply a jumper or has a component embedded. ;)
 

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