VTV Amplifier - Terrible Quality Build and Customer Service

[restorer-john]

And somewhere in the world a bike shed is going unpainted because all the gnashing of teeth over what color to paint it is being spent here instead working out the ontological origins of this thread.

Should have bought a March Audio bike shed instead! They come pre-painted in any colour (as long as it's black)

 

[restorer-john]

My underside is clean with no hand drilled holes, loose or incorrect screws, or missing screws and my AC plug is tight.

Maybe the OP's amplifiers were Friday afternoon builds?

 

[Dmitri]

All good echopraxia. I’m all in for you when it comes to the problem, and I appreciated the gif. That is pitiful. I was more trying to show you why others might feel like the points been made, and that the repetition just keeps remaking it...In my mind, once a points been made, no reason to keep repeating it. Ironic, given that’s exactly what I’m probably doing right now... ; )

I assure you I appreciate the info you’ve provided. If VTV was ever on my list, it’s off now.
I hope everything works out for you in the end. Good Luck!
And yeah...I know you don’t want it to be the focus of this thread, but perhaps another thread when March returns your amps? ; )

 

[Dmitri]

Maybe the OP's amplifiers were Friday afternoon builds?

I think they were saddled up to the bar at the time....

 

[Dmitri]

Aw shucks. Now I can go paint the damned bike shed. Metallic Candy Apple Red.
Ooooohhhh Yeeeeaaahhhh.....

 

[RayDunzl]

 

[617]

Do any of these March/VTV/Nord/Apollon type amplifiers built with off the shelf modules with/without custom buffers have any safety certification? This seems to be the essence of the problem with these products. I mean we've scrutinized the build quality of these products, but all that establishes is that some people on the internet consider the products to be safe.

I am all for the commoditization of hifi amplification; light, cheap and extremely high performance outweigh their issues with repairability, for me at least.

 

[Doodski]

Do any of these March/VTV/Nord/Apollon type amplifiers built with off the shelf modules with/without custom buffers have any safety certification? This seems to be the essence of the problem with these products. I mean we've scrutinized the build quality of these products, but all that establishes is that some people on the internet consider the products to be safe.

I am all for the commoditization of hifi amplification; light, cheap and extremely high performance outweigh their issues with repairability, for me at least.

I posted the North American safety certifications in post #82. Without those they are not safety certified for the USA or Canada. CSA is the standard in Canada but UL is OK in Canada too.

 

[CDMC]

It's not a consumer product. It's basically a kit build, done by a likely back-yard operation. There's no electrical compliance markings, it's in an off-the-shelf case and contains little actual original content. It's a join-the-dots amplifier.

This is how it's done:
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At least March makes a few PCBs and contructs his amplifiers carefully in a very nice case. Out of all the basic, no-frills Hypex/Purifi implementations, his must be one of the better ones. But he is not competing against NAD, he's found a niche and good luck to him.

Thanks a**hole, you just cost me $1,550 purchasing a lightly used M22v2.

 

[Doodski]

Thanks a**hole, you just cost me $1,550 purchasing a lightly used M22v2.

I'de put a vented clear plexiglass cover on that NAD M22V2 and show it off like a gaming pooder.

 

[restorer-john]

and show it off like a gaming pooder

I like that. Never heard them called gaming pooders before. Put some wicked RGB LEDs in there too!

 

[restorer-john]

you just cost me $1,550 purchasing a lightly used M22v2.

That's a real bargain. I haven't seen the v2 in the flesh. Maybe make a new thread for it when it arrives with your impressions. Take the lid off and show us the guts.

 

[Doodski]

I like that. Never heard them called gaming pooders before. Put some wicked RGB LEDs in there too!

That NAD M22V2 has, "Pimp my ride" written all over it.

 

[restorer-john]

That NAD M22V2 has, "Pimp my ride" written all over it.

I reckon it's already pimped in a subtle way. It's a sleeper. A lovely looking, classy limo with a blown V8 under the hood.

Sitting in a designer city apartment overlooking the river with minimalist aspirations and cute little bookshelf speakers, just waiting for someone to slip some AC/DC on after a few drinks and blow them apart before the wife gets home from her late afternoon marketing meeting.

 

[Doodski]

I reckon it's already pimped in a subtle way. It's a sleeper. A lovely looking, classy limo with a blown V8 under the hood.

Sitting in a designer city apartment overlooking the river with minimalist aspirations and cute little bookshelf speakers, just waiting for someone to slip some AC/DC on after a few drinks and blow them apart before the wife gets home from her late afternoon marketing meeting.

I'm seeing shredded ripped spiders, torn surrounds and smoking voice coils hanging out with wires unwound. hehe

 

[restorer-john]

I'm seeing shredded ripped spiders, torn surrounds and smoking voice coils hanging out with wires unwound. hehe

"I don't know what happened. It wasn't even that loud- honest"

 

[Doodski]

"I don't know what happened. It wasn't even that loud- honest"

Just crank the volume to the maX, disengage the subsonic filter and drop a needle onto a record. Voila! I accidentally did that to a set of Klipsch Cornwall in the 80's. They survived but I blew the store patrons away with the sound.

 

[Dmitri]

Just crank the volume to the maX, disengage the subsonic filter and drop a needle onto a record. Voila! I accidentally did that to a set of Klipsch Cornwall in the 80's. They survived but I blew the store patrons away with the sound.

Oh yeah...Years ago ( many) I used to have Genesis 2’s and lots of warped records.
Those green foam surrounds on the woofers were cool, but they only lasted so long....

 

[CDMC]

I'de put a vented clear plexiglass cover on that NAD M22V2 and show it off like a gaming pooder.

Hmm, just built a gaming computer with no LEDs for my 16 year old son (he shares my dislike of garish). That said, a 2020 lava lamp amp sounds like a neat idea.

 

[CDMC]

I reckon it's already pimped in a subtle way. It's a sleeper. A lovely looking, classy limo with a blown V8 under the hood.

Sitting in a designer city apartment overlooking the river with minimalist aspirations and cute little bookshelf speakers, just waiting for someone to slip some AC/DC on after a few drinks and blow them apart before the wife gets home from her late afternoon marketing meeting.

“Yeah, we're runnin' a little bit hot tonight
I can barely see the road from the heat comin' off of it
Ah, you reach down, between my legs and ease the seat back“

No wimpy bookshelves here, the Revel 208s are my downsizing. Ironically, the M22 is also less power than my existing amp.