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Topping Hane IEM Review

Rate this IEM:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 16 8.1%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 45 22.8%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 136 69.0%

  • Total voters
    197
If I were starting over I’d probably look differently at the Hane

Yeah, that's what I was thinking - not that Hane will necessarily top any of those.
Also, I remember from your previous posts that you don't EQ, so the toggles would be perfect. My bad, if that wasn't you:)
 
I voted Great due to the customisability of the switches and the fact that with Switch 2 activated it's effectively hugging Harman, plus it's low distortion. It's a bit more expensive than some of the cheaper IEM's that do just as well without the switches, but it's got that option & I voted the cheaper Harman hugging IEM's as Great too. For a lot of people reading this site & involved in this hobby I'm expecting $129 is not prohibitive for excellent sound.
 
I voted Great due to the customisability of the switches and the fact that with Switch 2 activated it's effectively hugging Harman, plus it's low distortion. It's a bit more expensive than some of the cheaper IEM's that do just as well without the switches, but it's got that option & I voted the cheaper Harman hugging IEM's as Great too. For a lot of people reading this site & involved in this hobby I'm expecting $129 is not prohibitive for excellent sound.

Perfectly logical!
 
Looks great on paper but I heard a few complaints about an upper treble harshness on this one (e.g. "Super Review" mentions it). He recommends to go for the Moondrop LAN instead unless you really want the switches. But maybe this is something which can be changed with the right ear tips.
 
Sorry, I have the problem that I can't use the IEM headphones because the ear canal is small, could these headphones be okay?
Try out with Sony S seized tips. Memory foam one's can make any of them little more comfortable but that's about it. I use IEM's only when working around and good part for noise isolation. Still prefer earbuds on the go especially in summer all do they can't have sufficient low bass same as open back over the ear one's. As ear chenel is different shape the top end and cancelling spot will differ from what's considered standard (all do even that is not standard at all).
 
Here measurements on BK5128 by Hangout (Crinacle) with Harman IE 2019 as reference, it's a bit crowded but I wanted to include all switches combinations
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https://graph.hangout.audio/iem/5128/?share=Harman_IE_2019_(B&K_5128)_Target,Hane
 
Looks great on paper but I heard a few complaints about an upper treble harshness on this one (e.g. "Super Review" mentions it). He recommends to go for the Moondrop LAN instead unless you really want the switches. But maybe this is something which can be changed with the right ear tips.
For sure it was a sighted, by one person only listening without an appropriately available reference. The sensitivity to what is called out as 'harsh treble' depends on fitness dependent on the hour. I can't take it too serious with all due respect.

A single DD motorized IEM did it again. The only pink elephant in the room is the wiggling in treble, because a) it appears synthetic to the hearing**, and b) is quite individual. Individual equalizer or a damping filter (feedback?) for the in-ear bouncing waves is needed - for perfection. Maybe, second to that a tighter simulation of the outer ear in frequency domain and time.

To give the above mentioned listening test the benefit of doubt, it could be that the wiggles of the ... 'Hane' just didn't match the individual's physigonomy.

** on the wiggles: if it so disturbing, why aren't people equalizing it out? I personally couldn't yet identify where in frequency they occur, hence their amplitude and neither the Q. Seems the hearing up there isn't that discriminating in the end. Anybody to address the topic?
 
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I've always been a bit confused with this market. I have some zero2's that sound great but I hate having to be tethered to my phone and accidentally pull it out of the phone and I HATE the sound of the cable moving or cable thump. Yes, you can fix this when seated at a desk but then I'd just rather use my desktop monitors and sub to get the sound out of my head. So when I want headphones I just reach for my airpod pros every time. noise cancelation is amazing with zero cable thump, never pull them out of the device, and get passthrough audio when I need to hear my surroundings, can answer my phone and go right back to consuming whatever content I was consuming, can switch from my laptop to my phone audio or even my apple tv if it's late and I need to be silent with the tv across the room.

My Zero 2's have been relegated to ps5 vr2 duty and even then I like to have my open back headphones so I can hear when someone needs me or the phone rings etc.
It's crazy cool that the performance is where it is for the price but I just don't understand the use case.

Why do you guys like them and use them? I'm genuinely curious.
 
In the listening tests you said "I felt no need to mess with the switches or EQ.", but is that with SW 2 ON, as in most of your measurements, or OFF?
Switch on. Should have been more clear.
 
Why do you guys like them and use them? I'm genuinely curious.
I use them in summer because headphones make my ears sweat and in bed. I have also used them outside when mowing and such. I also wear them on airplane.
 
I've always been a bit confused with this market. I have some zero2's that sound great but I hate having to be tethered to my phone and accidentally pull it out of the phone and I HATE the sound of the cable moving or cable thump. Yes, you can fix this when seated at a desk but then I'd just rather use my desktop monitors and sub to get the sound out of my head. So when I want headphones I just reach for my airpod pros every time. noise cancelation is amazing with zero cable thump, never pull them out of the device, and get passthrough audio when I need to hear my surroundings, can answer my phone and go right back to consuming whatever content I was consuming, can switch from my laptop to my phone audio or even my apple tv if it's late and I need to be silent with the tv across the room.

My Zero 2's have been relegated to ps5 vr2 duty and even then I like to have my open back headphones so I can hear when someone needs me or the phone rings etc.
It's crazy cool that the performance is where it is for the price but I just don't understand the use case.

Why do you guys like them and use them? I'm genuinely curious.
for me, age 59: exercise bike, and bed.
my kids use them sitting around during the day being youths.
 
I use them in summer because headphones make my ears sweat and in bed. I have also used them outside when mowing and such. I also wear them on airplane.
makes sense. I guess I still go for my airpod pros in these situations because of the noise cancelation or being able to have transparency when the three kids are home. I also love them for wood working to protect my ears. Even in transparency mode it will lower the volume of powertools to protect my ears.
 
I've always been a bit confused with this market. I have some zero2's that sound great but I hate having to be tethered to my phone and accidentally pull it out of the phone and I HATE the sound of the cable moving or cable thump. Yes, you can fix this when seated at a desk but then I'd just rather use my desktop monitors and sub to get the sound out of my head. So when I want headphones I just reach for my airpod pros every time. noise cancelation is amazing with zero cable thump, never pull them out of the device, and get passthrough audio when I need to hear my surroundings, can answer my phone and go right back to consuming whatever content I was consuming, can switch from my laptop to my phone audio or even my apple tv if it's late and I need to be silent with the tv across the room.

My Zero 2's have been relegated to ps5 vr2 duty and even then I like to have my open back headphones so I can hear when someone needs me or the phone rings etc.
It's crazy cool that the performance is where it is for the price but I just don't understand the use case.

Why do you guys like them and use them? I'm genuinely curious.
I hate headphones, they are too bulky for me.
IEMs are very practical, especially the Hane are perfect for 8+ hrs sessions.
One can drive them off a small USB dongle with PEQ, the entire setup (including non-microphonic cable) is less than 300$ (as much as apple buds pro and much less than mid-tier headphones, and everything is portable).
 
That is a function of the fixture and will highly vary based on actual use. It is a resonance due to volume of the tube in front of the measurement mic. My GRAS fixture "high resolution" coupler suffers far less than typical coupler but it is still there:

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These are the variations you can get without the damping in my fixture:
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It is therefore impossible to know what resonance there is in real usage.

As I have said though, lack of standards in music production means you don't know if what is there is already exaggerated, neutral or diminished so there is no good solution here other than per track equalization or just ignoring it.
Ah ha, great info! Thanks for the detailed explanation. Glad to know this can be a measurement artifact.
 
Headphone amplifiers can be had in mobile form . I suspect we both have more than one . Im fairly sure this would be fine , for example. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...20-headphone-dongle-review.58749/post-2146954
2V (standard) output for most dongles might not be enough voltage, depending on linearity behaviour of the Z on those IEMs.

I own Meeaudio's P1 where Ohm is "only" 50 and can't get it real loud paired with Fiio Q1. 2V on that 50 Ohm IEM is just a joke. No spark, no emotion. It's not only about loudness.
 
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I hate headphones, they are too bulky for me.
IEMs are very practical, especially the Hane are perfect for 8+ hrs sessions.
One can drive them off a small USB dongle with PEQ, the entire setup (including non-microphonic cable) is less than 300$ (as much as apple buds pro and much less than mid-tier headphones, and everything is portable).
It's strange that most of the responses are strawman arguments comparing the airpod pro's I mention to over the ear headphones. You mention bulky and Amir mentioned ear sweating, both of which have no relevance to airpod pro's. Not sure how it gets more portable than airpods pro. No dongle, needed, PEQ built into app, has microphone included and no wire to mess with. To each his own I suppose.
 
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