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Good evening, afternoon or morning – depending from where you are reading.
So i'm watching this forum now silently for quite a while and now would be in need of support to understand/read subwoofer measurements a bit better.
The situation is as following: I've recently replaced my Klipsch RP 6000F floorstanding speakers with a pair of Genelecs, which are for some weird and unrelated reasons a childhood obsession.
Very happy with the additional visual space that the Genelecs provide in stands as opposed to the large black monoliths.
And furthermore I couldn't be more excited with the sound and separation in comparison to the Klipsch. I don't know.. despite being similarily priced and even having had a dedicated power amplifier before, I feel I never was able to position/tweak them to a level where they really brought me the joy that i'm now having with the Genelec 8030s.
The only thing that I'm now (presumeably) missing from time to time is some added support in the lower end.. having speakers that "fill the room" give me a somewhat cozy feeling. And I think the best way to achieve that is through a subwoofer.
I listen to music 80% vs. 20% of movies and occasional gaming. Mostly quieter electronic or jazzy stuff - and all of that at preferrably lower levels. And here I think it would be nice to have some gentle support in the low end to round of the sound.
Attached you can find a sketch of the room with some measurements. As volumetric measurements are also often asked for - the ceilings are 2.4 meters high.
As you can see, the room is very "narrow" or rather long and the listening space is just on the very end, near the big window (marked in blue).
So if I just go by the listening area, the volume of the area would be a lot less. But of course the waves like to escape - so i'm not sure if I need to take the remaining space also into consideration and therefore have to size the subwoofer differently?
Next "problem" is the WAF. I got permission for a sub as long as it is not too big or gloss white or gloss black. So a smaller case would be appreciated. We've seen a Dali E-9F in the flesh today and that got a thumbs up. An Argon Audio BASS12 was considered too big already. And a REL was titled fugly
And third thing: As mentioned, i like to listen at lower levels and enjoy the music throughout the evening hours. And facing the long sides, the room has other apartments with levels above and below. So please nothing that would shake up the neighbours and their small kids
All in all: Probably sealed over ported? Front and not down firing? Around 10" for the driver? Something else to consider? Or is that all nonsense given the rooms proportions?
The often cited SVS SB 1000 (not pro) can be had for around 500 here, but is a tad bigger (still doable) and 12" might be overkill for my purposes?
Budget is around 500-600 CHF/EUR/USD.
And there is then stuff around where I wonder if there would be any noticeable effect, such as the Q Acoustics 3060S or the Cambridge Minx X301, but which would hide themselves easily.
What would the audience do? Or what should I look for when reading the comparison chart? Seems like the stores are also not very interested in setting up a sub for demo-purposes.
Two stores just have a few models standing around, everything else on order and nothing is wired up unfortunately. Available to order is a lot though.
So i'm watching this forum now silently for quite a while and now would be in need of support to understand/read subwoofer measurements a bit better.
The situation is as following: I've recently replaced my Klipsch RP 6000F floorstanding speakers with a pair of Genelecs, which are for some weird and unrelated reasons a childhood obsession.
Very happy with the additional visual space that the Genelecs provide in stands as opposed to the large black monoliths.
And furthermore I couldn't be more excited with the sound and separation in comparison to the Klipsch. I don't know.. despite being similarily priced and even having had a dedicated power amplifier before, I feel I never was able to position/tweak them to a level where they really brought me the joy that i'm now having with the Genelec 8030s.
The only thing that I'm now (presumeably) missing from time to time is some added support in the lower end.. having speakers that "fill the room" give me a somewhat cozy feeling. And I think the best way to achieve that is through a subwoofer.
I listen to music 80% vs. 20% of movies and occasional gaming. Mostly quieter electronic or jazzy stuff - and all of that at preferrably lower levels. And here I think it would be nice to have some gentle support in the low end to round of the sound.
Attached you can find a sketch of the room with some measurements. As volumetric measurements are also often asked for - the ceilings are 2.4 meters high.
As you can see, the room is very "narrow" or rather long and the listening space is just on the very end, near the big window (marked in blue).
So if I just go by the listening area, the volume of the area would be a lot less. But of course the waves like to escape - so i'm not sure if I need to take the remaining space also into consideration and therefore have to size the subwoofer differently?
Next "problem" is the WAF. I got permission for a sub as long as it is not too big or gloss white or gloss black. So a smaller case would be appreciated. We've seen a Dali E-9F in the flesh today and that got a thumbs up. An Argon Audio BASS12 was considered too big already. And a REL was titled fugly
And third thing: As mentioned, i like to listen at lower levels and enjoy the music throughout the evening hours. And facing the long sides, the room has other apartments with levels above and below. So please nothing that would shake up the neighbours and their small kids
All in all: Probably sealed over ported? Front and not down firing? Around 10" for the driver? Something else to consider? Or is that all nonsense given the rooms proportions?
The often cited SVS SB 1000 (not pro) can be had for around 500 here, but is a tad bigger (still doable) and 12" might be overkill for my purposes?
Budget is around 500-600 CHF/EUR/USD.
And there is then stuff around where I wonder if there would be any noticeable effect, such as the Q Acoustics 3060S or the Cambridge Minx X301, but which would hide themselves easily.
What would the audience do? Or what should I look for when reading the comparison chart? Seems like the stores are also not very interested in setting up a sub for demo-purposes.
Two stores just have a few models standing around, everything else on order and nothing is wired up unfortunately. Available to order is a lot though.
