Cahudson42
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Wow. That definitely stinks. Not sure if that’s due to wood movement or it’s a structural break/defect. Interesting in that it’s across the grain, which makes me think they lack the necessary structural integrity at the socket attachment. To keep things light, wood can’t match well engineered plastics for sure. Sorry to see that. Pretty sure it ruined your day... : (I also thought that the amount of movement would be so little as to not be a problem...but apparently not..
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To his credit, some merely have the L/R stamped or embossed with a small letter in the frame material, so it blends in (e.g., little to no contrast) making it difficult to find. Sometimes not too hard to read once you actually find it, but as there's no standard each set/manufacturer has it labeled in a different location and/or manner.@amirm On some headphones it literally takes me a minute or two to find the darn designation.
Amir also needs new glasses to read his own measurements. Please donate.
Otherwise, see my PEQ guide.Preamp: -5.4 dB
Filter 1: ON LS Fc 45 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 1.0
Filter 2: ON LS Fc 90 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 1.0
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1100 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 1.0
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 3100 Hz Gain 5.0 dB Q 4.0
Should not a cubic meter be a liter that weighs a gramOn that note it's always frustrated me that a milliliter weighs a gram, and not a milligram.
I know why, it just annoys me.
These also appear to have swivel while some of the others with sealing issues did not. Perhaps that is an overlooked factor. I believe the HE6 which were the only Hifiman headphones measured so far without sealing issues also have some swivel.The pads are shaped.
Did you have any seal issues measuring or when listening ?
Did anyone else notice the angled pads look they're on the wrong way!? Normally the narrowest part of the pad faces forwards, with the thickest part of your pad facing backwards (being behind your ear). In the pic you can see the thinnest part of the pad is pointing upwards, that strikes me as odd. Pics on Amazon & elsewhere seem to show that indeed that they do intend the thin part of the pad to be pointing upwards - unusual design choice then.
Yep, that's what I was referring to when saying that the thinnest part of the pad is pointing upwards, when normally instead it points forwards on other headphones.Yes I thought that looked strange too, but it seems to be the top that's thinner rather than the sides. Look at the top gap in this photo:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...dphone-hifigo-289437_695x695.jpg?v=1593508026
Seems to me the alignment of FR with a target at one frequency is arbitrary and misleading. If 80% of the curve is below target, seems to me the target level is too high.
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What if the total SPL is used - or even just by eye - to line up curves a closely as possible? In this case about 4 dB. Then we’ll see the EQ problem is quite different: too much upper bass, the rest is actually pretty good.
Wow. That definitely stinks. Not sure if that’s due to wood movement or it’s a structural break/defect. Interesting in that it’s across the grain, which makes me think they lack the necessary structural integrity at the socket attachment. To keep things light, wood can’t match well engineered plastics for sure. Sorry to see that. Pretty sure it ruined your day... : (
Think I’ll stick to my plastic HD 580’s and 6xx’s...can’t see ‘em while I’m wearing them anyway!
Edit...looked again...that’s the end grain showing and not cross grain isn’t it? The break makes more sense now, and definitely a foreseeable problem area. That is very likely wood breakage caused by wood movement that has been impeded by a fixed structure behind it. Ouch. Poor design!
I noticed that too. I think Cahudson42 was just making a generalized comment regarding wood use in HP’s. Still, you’re correct Jon. It’s important to note that the image portrayed is not of the actual headphones being reviewed here. Thanks for correcting that. ; )That's a completely different headphone @Cahudson42 pictured. Not even the same brand.
The ones reviewed have 1/8" sockets and not mini XLRs.
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Seems to me the alignment of FR with a target at one frequency is arbitrary and misleading. If 80% of the curve is below target, seems to me the target level is too high.
Ah, I like that. I've had the same critique but bit my tongue. I like the approach described at that link.Yep, I've made this point before, so for your information I'll just link you to a previous comment with a better method of target curve alignment Oratory uses, which results in a depiction of perceived tonality that makes more visual sense, and on average lower dB magnitudes needed for EQ filters => less negative preamp gain required => more headroom.