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I got Love Over Gold as it was recommended on some site.Try to get a mint vinyl of the original Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits and the first version of the corresponding CD (the remastered versions are compressed).
I got Love Over Gold as it was recommended on some site.Try to get a mint vinyl of the original Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits and the first version of the corresponding CD (the remastered versions are compressed).
The manual is not correct. The IEC specification is a 1st order highpass at 20 Hz (pole at 7950 microseconds), which means -3 dB at 20 Hz as implemented by Musical Fidelity. A subsonic filter OTOH would use a 3rd or 4th order highpass at e.g. 15 Hz.The manual says this:
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That is not what it is doing (only filtering subsonics).
Yep, this is also an excellent recording. I own both original LP and original CD, and the sound difference here is similar to Brothers in Arms. On Love over Gold though the reason could be a little more loudness in the quiet parts of the LP. I notice this with the drum beats in Private Investigations; on the LP they have more power.I got Love Over Gold as it was recommended on some site.
Listening with headphones to vinyl is actually not a good idea. Somehow headphones let the flaws (noise, ticks) show up easier.I am using headphones so I can hear more than someone using speakers. I did note that this was during fade-outs where there was still music but at lower levels. My point wasn't as much that there was groove noise but that it provided a false sense of ambiance.
Listened yesterday to the original LP Colours by Eloy, made in 1980:Recently tried out vinyl again after I got an old (80ies) Sony amp with, according to reviewers back then, really good phono stage. Record player is the classic Technics SL1200 with a good cartridge and new needle.
Dug out a LP with classical music from my collection - a recording which I'd recently listened to on Spotify. LP was clean and appeared virtually unplayed (very well possible, I was a bit of an obsessive collector back in the day).
The experiment lasted half a side (<10 minutes). There was the hiss, there were the crackles, there was the obvious limits on dynamic range. There also wasn't anything there that would have made the defects of the format worthwhile.
I still like the large covers, occassional liner notes, and the optics and haptics of putting a record on the player. Actual playback from LP is no longer acceptable to me.
That would be what I would expect.Yep, this is also an excellent recording. I own both original LP and original CD, and the sound difference here is similar to Brothers in Arms. On Love over Gold though the reason could be a little more loudness in the quiet parts of the LP. I notice this with the drum beats in Private Investigations; on the LP they have more power.
What are you talking about? Not a good idea? How old are you? I grew up with records. And massive over the ear headache inducing Koss headphones, too. You are obviously spoiled by pristine sound. I'll bet you didn't walk to school in the snow, barefoot, uphill both ways, to and fro, either. Good grief...the younger generation!Listening with headphones to vinyl is actually not a good idea. Somehow headphones let the flaws (noise, ticks) show up easier.
Listened yesterday to the original LP Colours by Eloy, made in 1980:
I really liked it, wide sound stage, bass guitar has a good drive. TT is an LP12/Lingo(old)/Ekos(old) with a Van den Hul MC-One Special. Bought in the 90s, most of it used. Phono preamp is DIY. Since I don't have the CD I cannot compare.
But I must admit, that very few vinyl records are made good. Often the vinyl material is not virgin, resulting in a noise floor which is higher than the one of the master tape. Even the new vinyl you can get today is more often than not handled improper, being packed in paper without inner plastic sleeve. No wonder that one has to clean them before the first play to get rid of paper dust. One more reason to stay away from the hype.
This is also a very good recording: Breaking Silence by Janis Ian. I have a 180 gr vinyl from the 90ies.I got Love Over Gold as it was recommended on some site.
What are you talking about? Not a good idea? How old are you? I grew up with records. And massive over the ear headache inducing Koss headphones, too. You are obviously spoiled by pristine sound. I'll bet you didn't walk to school in the snow, barefoot, uphill both ways, to and fro, either. Good grief...the younger generation!
Being into vinyl is a hobby, no, a lifestyle. Listening to music digitally is just listening to music. Vinyl lovers won't give up their lifestyle of choice for anything in the world.But seriously, the only reasons to go with records are: a) like me you have too many of them from years of collecting, and want to live in nostalgia; b) you like the haptic experience and ritual of adjusting for different tracking correction schemes, spending a fortune for different carts, trimming capacitance, cleaning silicone gunk from your hands after you've loaded the damping trough, comparing record clamps and mats, and imagining there's a big difference; c) you just like to watch things go round and round.
The MM gain is in the dashboard: 42 dB. Sorry I don't recall the MC gain but I think their specs are accurate enough to rely on for this.Amir, do you know what the gain for the MC setting on this phono preamp was? The standard 60 dB? Or a bit less or more?
If you also know the gain is for MM that would be perfect, but I'm mostly curious about the gain for the MC setting .
Same here. Grew up listening to budget-label records on a cheap Japanese table with a cheap Japanese receiver and those on-ear Sennheiser's with the yellow foam pads (can't remember model number) or Koss PortaPros. That's where I learned all my Bartok, Beethoven and Brahms.
And HD424.HD414 of my memory serves me well
Thanks! But the company's specs actually don't state the MC gain. But when you mentioned the 42 dB I included that number in my search and then, finally after a lot of searching, found a report (http://www.analogueseduction.net/us...ril June 2018-9 Musical Fidelity MX-VYNL.pdf) where the MC gain was mentioned, and it turned out to be 56.7 dB. So the +6 dB gain switch would only bring it up to 62.7 dB.The MM gain is in the dashboard: 42 dB. Sorry I don't recall the MC gain but I think their specs are accurate enough to rely on for this.
Appreciate your post. I have a Hana EL which appears to need around 60-62 db of gain. I'm now trying to either purchase or build my own 5pin din to mini xlr. Listening to it now and and it subjectively sounds very good with no hum, so not sure it is worth the effort to get balanced input working or not. Thanks again.Thanks! But the company's specs actually don't state the MC gain. But when you mentioned the 42 dB I included that number in my search and then, finally after a lot of searching, found a report (http://www.analogueseduction.net/user/brands/37 Pages from CR50 HIFICRITIC vol 12 no2 April June 2018-9 Musical Fidelity MX-VYNL.pdf) where the MC gain was mentioned, and it turned out to be 56.7 dB. So the +6 dB gain switch would only bring it up to 62.7 dB.
I asked about this issue, as I've been looking for an MC preamp with more gain, and just shy of 63 dB wouldn't give me much. But Arcam's Rphono offers 70 dB of gain (as well as 60, 80 and 82), and I'm trying that out in this coming week.