Recommendation for MOST DETAILED, ANALYTICAL, X-RAY - 3D HOLOGRAPHIC DAC available?

[Robin L]

What were we talking about?

 

[Killingbeans]

Wow, amazing how mid-fi preamp and source make anything after it sound much the same, much like testing while wearing earplugs.

How about this one?: http://matrixhifi.com/ENG_ppec.htm

The room and the speakers is where the actual differences are. Looking for flaws in the source is like running a toxicology test on a man with a gunshot wound.

 

[Jimbob54]

I'm not cancelling the trip with the twins...

And I hope you don't spend a lot of time thinking about my sex life... That's just weird.

He's got me at it now too!

 

[Killingbeans]

What were we talking about?

Something about how both "objectivists" and "subjectivists" can get caught up in a mindless chase for "perfection"

 

[Jimbob54]

I hope you find sex more engaging and are not multitasking then too.

There's going to be a "your mum" joke coming your way. I wouldn't bring sex into it.

 

[Robin L]

Something about how both "objectivists" and "subjectivists" can get caught up in a mindless chase for "perfection"

If they're looking for an X-Ray machine, I'm afraid they've come to the wrong place.

This is abuse.

 

[markk02474]

I'm not cancelling the trip with the twins...

And I hope you don't spend a lot of time thinking about my sex life... That's just weird.

In that case, you need to do it triple blind rather than just double blind.

 

[BDWoody]

In that case, you need to do it triple blind rather than just double blind.

I'm willing to go through as many trials as required for valid data...

 

[frogmeat69]

Ha! Somewhat related... I haven't tested it *blindly* but I swear my beer tastes better when I drink it from a glass than straight from the can in which I bought it.

Drinking it from a glass with it's wide opening gives your nose a better chance of getting the smell of the beer than through the small opening of the can, and will give you a better sense of the aroma and taste of the beer.

 

[Jimbob54]

Drinking it from a glass with it's wide opening gives your nose a better chance of getting the smell of the beer than through the small opening of the can, and will give you a better sense of the aroma and taste of the beer.

Chug! Chug! Chug!

 

[Shazb0t]

I could pass a blind test easily on a high resolution system. I find it a waste of time and effort for the most part because differences are so obvious, and if they are not obvious, then I choose the component based on other factors like functionality and price.

So all this talk and basically you refuse to do any controlled listening. This is even after the specific SPDIF "filter" you told us was necessary was tested and proven to basically do nothing. It may even be detrimental.

I'm not going to waste any more time on ignorant people wishing to stay that way.

I think that's best for everyone. There are plenty of other forums where audio magic discussion is encouraged.

Digital conversion, circuit design, and digital filtering is so much more complicated than you can imagine. If you want to live a simple life and choose products based on S/N, keep at it. But something seems to be wrong with it as you seem to spend more time writing on the computer spouting noise instead of engaged with music.

It's common for people who want to promote snake oil or audio voodoo to attempt to sow doubt and claim that audio science is a mystery. It makes you very transparent.

 

[paddycrow]

I could pass a blind test easily on a high resolution system. I find it a waste of time and effort for the most part because differences are so obvious, and if they are not obvious, then I choose the component based on other factors like functionality and price. I'm not going to waste any more time on ignorant people wishing to stay that way. Digital conversion, circuit design, and digital filtering is so much more complicated than you can imagine. If you want to live a simple life and choose products based on S/N, keep at it. But something seems to be wrong with it as you seem to spend more time writing on the computer spouting noise instead of engaged with music.

Most of the people you're talking down to are engineers with extensive backgrounds in the field.

 

[ahofer]

Wow, amazing how mid-fi preamp and source make anything after it sound much the same, much like testing while wearing earplugs.

Folks, Garbage in - Garbage out as we said in the computer field.

This should be instructive as a cause of audionervosa - without a low noise, high resolution source, nothing down the line makes much of a difference no matter how many times you swap one thing for another. DACs with wonderful specs are great, but often the data source going into them needs to be cleaned up, except for the few DACs which do the cleanup (dejitter/reclocking) internally. Another source is power, and that needs to be clean to achieve the highest resolution too.

Glad I wasn’t taking a sip of my wine here when I read this.

You just keep asserting things that are entirely unsupported with controlled test evidence, as if your assertions make them true. They are not. And, btw, it ain’t “few” DACs. Any DAC with a USB input should deal with incoming jitter (which is also typically at an inaudible level) quite nicely.

 

[ahofer]

I could pass a blind test easily on a high resolution system. I find it a waste of time and effort for the most part because differences are so obvious, and if they are not obvious, then I choose the component based on other factors like functionality and price. I'm not going to waste any more time on ignorant people wishing to stay that way. Digital conversion, circuit design, and digital filtering is so much more complicated than you can imagine. If you want to live a simple life and choose products based on S/N, keep at it. But something seems to be wrong with it as you seem to spend more time writing on the computer spouting noise instead of engaged with music.

No you couldn’t. I’ve offered $10k to charity (with additions from others on this site) for someone to do this and never had any takers. You have false bravado.

 

[oldsysop]

I'm not going to waste any more time on ignorant people wishing to stay that way.

Thanks.

 

[frogmeat69]

Chug! Chug! Chug!

No sir, I like to enjoy my brews, not talking Keystone Light here.

 

[VintageFlanker]

I could pass a blind test easily on a high resolution system. I find it a waste of time and effort for the most part because differences are so obvious, and if they are not obvious, then I choose the component based on other factors like functionality and price. I'm not going to waste any more time on ignorant people wishing to stay that way. Digital conversion, circuit design, and digital filtering is so much more complicated than you can imagine. If you want to live a simple life and choose products based on S/N, keep at it. But something seems to be wrong with it as you seem to spend more time writing on the computer spouting noise instead of engaged with music.

Congratulations! You just won the ASR Troll Award - season 2020!. Cheers!

RIP Thomas...

 

[Jimbob54]

Congratulations! You just won the ASR Troll Award - season 2020!. Cheers!

RIP Thomas...

And my dad could fight your dad!

 

[amirm]

I hope you find sex more engaging and are not multitasking then too.

Watch your language. This is a professional forum. Warning issued.

 

[markk02474]

No you couldn’t. I’ve offered $10k to charity (with additions from others on this site) for someone to do this and never had any takers. You have false bravado.

Tell me more! A link to the offer?