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Passive 2 way - front ported (or sealed). What DIY model or brand model do you love? (flat response)

edhamgtr

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Looking for the best sounding, flattest 2 way passive speaker I can find.
Likely a DIY design using great drivers.

Building out an atmos mixing room and would like to avoid the usual studio monitors that are price-point builds.
13 speakers so keeping costs down is big - thus DIY is likely.

Has to be front ported or sealed design (small room).

appreciate your input.
 

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Great drivers are not cheap, or they are cheaper for the OEM crowd to get them in bulk discount.
Hence; you might be better off looking for some older speakers that fit the specs technically, and then get the 13 of them on the used market?
 

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Since when is DIY economic? Take the above advice and seek 2nd hand if a bargain is what your after.
 
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edhamgtr

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Not looking for CHEAP. but can't swing 13 ATC scm20s.
The used market is a good idea - but which speaker?

thanks!
 

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For your ported/sealed decision and cabinet volume you can model your design with WinISD (or other speaker design software) after entering the Thiele-Small parameters for various drivers.
 

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Any speaker can be flat on-axis if you use DSP/EQ.

The trick is achieving consistent directivity. With a 2 way speaker, a waveguide on the tweeter is ideal.

The best solution IMO is purchasing a high-end coaxial unit made by a company like KEF. You can buy the KEF R3 mid/tweeter unit for 113 euro.


Combine that with something like a Scanspeak 8535G00 8" woofer and you can have a really high performance 3 way speaker for under $500 each, including the cabinet + crossover. Do a hybrid approach, passive crossover for the mid/tweeter, active between the woofer and mid. That way you only need 2 channels of DSP and amplification per speaker. I would personally build them sealed and crossover to the subs at 50 or 60Hz. Ports can introduce some non-linearity, and if this is your first DIY project, just a headache to be avoided IMO.

A 2 way speaker can be done of course, but will have more distortion, particularly at high SPL. KEF Q350 drivers are also available for sale if you want this approach.


Also, I assume you know this, but the acoustic treatment of your room matters a great deal. Getting a nice even decay rate across the entire spectrum is more difficult than selecting good speakers IMO.
 
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Not sure about the scm20 but if the scm19 measurements are anything to go off of they are terrible.

Not DIY and it's rear ported but:


$750 ea. Maybe a discount if you contact them? You can surely go a bit cheaper with DIY but also factor in how much your time is worth.
 

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You can build them closed. Qtc 0.707gives -3dB point at 80hz. That's what I did. 12dB highpass for the sats, 24dB lowpass for the subs. Works well.
 

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If you want DIY, you'll have to give more criteria; Box volume, woofer size, etc.

There are MANY good designs out there that may apply.
 

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You can build them closed. Qtc 0.707gives -3dB point at 80hz. That's what I did. 12dB highpass for the sats, 24dB lowpass for the subs. Works well.
Can you provide how you got to a F3 of 80Hz on this bitte.

When I run WinISD on the stock ~14 liter box I get:
Q=0.542, F3=97Hz

When I calculate for Q=0.707 I get:
6.5 liter box, F3=95Hz

I'm needing small sealed boxes with nice directivity for surround/atmos for my new HT build (will be paired with multisubs of course).
 
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