This is a bold statement. Do you think most known studio engineers and mixers would also agree ? I doubt it.
The consumer market is far bigger than the studio market, so in some ways it almost doesn't mater what studio engineers think.
This is a bold statement. Do you think most known studio engineers and mixers would also agree ? I doubt it.
That may be one reason, but there are others much more rational ones.Because far to many people don't use their brains! Lots of people believe monitors are only for studio work and HiFi is only for consumers and vice versa. Thus manufactures wanting to maximize profit (within reason), will make both and not waste time trying to fight the stereotypes.
Thanks. So please tell me why JBL sells HiFi and Studio Monitors ? Why Dynaudio sells Dyna HiFi and Dyna Studio professional ?
This is a bold statement. Do you think most known studio engineers and mixers would also agree ? I doubt it.
The consumer market is far bigger than the studio market, so in some ways it almost doesn't mater what studio engineers think.
Let me paraphrase your answer: There are billions of people who smoke every day , almost does not matter what the doctors say about smoking.The consumer market is far bigger than the studio market, so in some ways it almost doesn't mater what studio engineers think.
Let me paraphrase your answer: There are billions of people who smoke every day , almost does not matter what the doctors say about smoking.
Lots of people believe monitors are only for studio work and HiFi is only for consumers and vice versa. Thus manufactures wanting to maximize profit (within reason), will make both and not waste time trying to fight the stereotypes.
Why the attitude and aggression ? Did you come here to have a conversation and exchange opinions and information or to spike the ball and pretend you won some imaginary game/argument? You are most certainly behaving like a Troll and we are generous with how much slack we give new members. However, if you keep on behaving like this we will eventually just award you the T-shirt and send you along your way.Let me paraphrase your answer: There are billions of people who smoke every day , almost does not matter what the doctors say about smoking.
Your opinions would be questioned anywhere here. It's mostly about you generalizing things bit too much and making pretty bold claims without backing them up with facts.Ok , thank you all for exchanging valuable opinions.
P.S. Note to moderators: I posted my thread under General Discussion to exchange views. Should it be posted under PRO Audio ? If so, then I understand the questioning of my post. I am a newbie here. Peace & love.
Transparent hi-fi speakers sound an awful lot like transparent monitors, indeed contemporary actives are equally at home in domestic or pro environments.
A good design is a good design,
Keith
Hello to all. Guys just to clear the facts and myths about the sound reproduction. I have decided to post this thread because I come across many threads that actually mislead the potential buyers or people who want to get precise answer about the sound types.
First of all , there is a huge difference between PA/Monitors and HIFI. The most credible and proper sound no matter what type of music / tunes you would like to listen to - is only via PA and Monitor speakers ! HiFi works totally the other way round - it is not supposed to give you the best reproduction because it is a falsified sound modified by the speakers' crossovers. Moreover, HiFi is extremely overpriced where many buyers give you much money and are duped for this worse sound reproduction. Mind this , most sound engineers do not use HiFi in their studios ! PA speakers are not only about volume , PA and monitors give you the most direct sound often with acoustics DSP or EQ to hear as much detail as possible. Now many PA listeners will say , they sound too detailed or sharp , yes ! It is supposed to be like that , this is the sound of the studio guys. I spent many years listening to HiFi and were never satisfied because of the modified crossovers that actually spoil the output throwing away the detail and making me fatigued. So to me listening to PA or monitor sound give me the most pleasure when I want to hear as much detail and power as possible. Also PA / monitors cannot usually be found in popular shops because they are profi products and look too dull for consumers who have often no idea about the difference. All in all it is of course a matter of taste at the end.
Being loud enough and flat enough to the back row of the venue may be more important than smooth, wide directivity, and they attain evenness of sound throughout the venue with additional speakers, room treatments, phased arrays, and other techniques. But speakers designed for mixing decks are usually close enough to the console operator to need the same smooth, wide directivity as in the home environment.
Am I missing something here? I'm not sure how this has anything to do with the main point of the member who's post you quoted. What am I missing?It's both. PA speakers must have controlled dispersion, decent sound within the intended dispersion angles, and get loud. Most PA speakers are point-and-shoot 2-way boxes with a direct-radiating 8-15" woofer and a HF horn. They transition to omnidirectional towards the bottom of the passband, but the mid-high range should have decent directivity control.
+1 to tomtoo's comment above that the best-sounding speaker is completely worthless in a PA situation, if it can't get loud enough.
Chris
Yes ! And this is what is lacking in HiFi stuff - HiFi speakers often lack powerful , direct projection and sensitivity of the PAs.My point was that evenness in dispersion is an important factor in PA speaker design/choice, while the post I quoted seemed to suggest that PA speakers mostly need to get loud, and multiple speakers would be used to even out the coverage.
In most PA situations, using a bunch of speakers for coverage reasons isn't really an option. Instead, it's best to deploy a cabinet with the appropriate coverage angles in the first place.
Chris
I don't. Did you know the most popular studio monitor for 25 years used for mixing was a consumer Yamaha NS-10. First don't put studio monitors and PA monitors in the same group. Totally different usage. Second, most major studios have at least 2 or 3 types of monitors (including terrible littleThis is a bold statement. Do you think most known studio engineers and mixers would also agree ? I doubt it.
PA speakers are designed for specific patterns, not for evenness of patterns. JBL column array speakers are designed to provide very narrow vertical directivity and wide horizontal directivity. I used the in a church to float over the microphones and the first several rows that didn’t need reinforcement to punch some mid-bass and up consonant reinforcement to the rows further back. That system only needs two speakers. Bass reflex speakers like old Altec A7’s put a horn in front of the woofer to get more throw for long, narrow theaters. probably only two would be used there, too.My point was that evenness in dispersion is an important factor in PA speaker design/choice, while the post I quoted seemed to suggest that PA speakers mostly need to get loud, and multiple speakers would be used to even out the coverage.
In most PA situations, using a bunch of speakers for coverage reasons isn't really an option. Instead, it's best to deploy a cabinet with the appropriate coverage angles in the first place.
Chris