Making me think as to the last time I used a dedicated cd player....probably 15 years ago. I just use whatever dvd or bluray player I have in the system and these days just rip a cd on receipt and play the file and not the disc itself (except for SACD which I can't rip with my setup). I think I still have my old Sony changer in the closet, probably still works just fine....might have to put it in play just for the heck of it..
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Old (vintage) vs new CD Player DAC differences?
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As a happy owner of a CDP-x779ES, I agree. This is definately NOT a machine to underestimate ...
Or over-praise?
That depends.
The point I'm making is that it is a nice anchor piece in spite of it's age. If one "outgrows" the sound of the electronics or desires change, one can always get an external DAC. The transport is the same hardware as used in some very nice Accuphase products of the time period. I enjoy the sound of the player by itself and also find it sounds fabulous with my Cambridge DACMagic or a friends borrowed Benchmark DAC2.As with any old machine, no matter how good or reknown it is, you can be at risk of laser assembly failure. I've found in well-built (and well-cared for - so chose carefully when buying used!!!) transports, the laser assembly lasts a good long time and is very rarely the first thing to fail. The real problem comes when a machine starts to misbehave and someone attempts to fix it it by getting the laser power cranked up. Although true laser problems are rare, turning up the power laser power might mask problem symptoms for a while. It skips again, power gets cranked up more, etc. then fzzzzzzt, the laser's magic smoke leaves and you are now the sad owner of a well-built boat anchor
. If you even find a known good replacement laser, the original problem was never fixed, so back on the merry-go-round you ride .... fun, fun, fun ...
Tai labai geras grotuvas. Užsidėkite ant jo Camouflage - I'll Follow Behind , sujunkite šį grotuvą su SONY resyveriu, ir matysite šio grotuvo galią. CDP-715 skaito visus diskus (aišku ne MP3) . Grotuvas veikia kaip vakar pagamintas, ir diskus nuskaito pilnai iki galo. Tik vienas minusas, labai jautrus lazerio mechanizmas. Grotuvas jautrus bet kokiam stuktelėjimui grojimo metu.
I have a Sony XA7-ES from 1998 and it is going absolutely nowhere. Built like a tank and sounds and looks great. Bought it around 2005 for $650-I think I got a steal. I am even using the RCA o/p so I am not even using an external DAC and the sound is so clear and balanced.The 'old' CD players were generally more ergonomic than anything you can get today. You could isolate tracks and program them easily. Some would offer index programming (as if anyone used that!). The readouts actually told you stuff about disc timing, emphasis etc.
I think Technics made players that could 'scan' a CD for the loudest passage, making it easier to set your levels when you dubbed cassettes for you car. I know that feature will be important to everyone, today!
Seriously, if I was still playing CDs and had an old player, and if it still worked, I'd keep it until it stops doing that. I'm pretty sure (doing this from memory) that many of the higher end models sported digital out jacks. Optical or coax. If you have one of those, it is ready for your latest and greatest stand alone DAC, I guess.
IOW, par for the course for a CDP.
One of my oldest pieces of kit is my first single-drawer CD player I bought new in the spring of 1987, an Onkyo DX-1400. Still running fine today, never had service of any kind, even lubrication. Could be programmed to play/skip tracks etc. So that's 39 years on...impressive.
Given how well-known Onkyos are known for issues with gummed-up lubrication, I would suggest watching out for typical signs like the drive emitting a "tick-tick-tick" sound (spindle motor) or sluggish seeking (sled drive). A gummed-up sled drive motor can cause the motor driver IC to overheat and fail, so a bit of preventative maintenance is not the worst idea in the world. A drop of sewing machine oil in the top bearing goes a long way.
Good suggestions from AnalogSteph!
I would add to watch out for deteriorated ribbon cable from the optic block as another failure mode to watch for from Onkyos.
The spindle motor thing really burns my britches - otherwise I really like their Integra line of machines!
I would add to watch out for deteriorated ribbon cable from the optic block as another failure mode to watch for from Onkyos.
The spindle motor thing really burns my britches - otherwise I really like their Integra line of machines!
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