Needs help with subwoofer integration

[Jdunk54nl]

What are you currently using as your source and/or power to the speakers / subs?

 

[Aubergine]

What are you currently using as your source and/or power to the speakers / subs?

smsl m300 mkii

 

[Jdunk54nl]

What speakers? Are the powered or have an amp?

 

[Aubergine]

What speakers? Are the powered or have an amp?

Active speakers BX8 D3S

 

[Jdunk54nl]

A minidsp shd studio would work well for you. Has dirac built in.

https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-studio

 

[Aubergine]

A minidsp shd studio would work well for you. Has dirac built in.

https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-studio

Way out of my price range im afraid.

This one seems more " reasonable "

https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_dcx2496_ultradrive_pro_lautsprechermanagement.htm

or this one that i posted earlier

https://www.thomann.de/gb/ik_multimedia_arc_system_3.htm

looks like it does most of the job for you

or this one https://www.thomann.de/gb/sonarworks_soundid_ref_spk_hp_w_mic.htm

not sure which one is better sonaworks or arc system

 

[Jdunk54nl]

What are you using as your main source, to feed the smsl?
If using a computer, plenty if computer based eq.

The problem you are going to face is the XLR and or digital input / output of your dac and speakers. Not a lot of cheap options to handle that.

 

[Aubergine]

What are you using as your main source, to feed the smsl?
If using a computer, plenty if computer based eq.

The problem you are going to face is the XLR and or digital input / output of your dac and speakers. Not a lot of cheap options to handle that.

Oh just my computer usb

 

[Jdunk54nl]

Oh just my computer usb

Do computer based eq then. You can set a lot of stuff up that way.
Grab a microphone and get software to do that.

 

[Aubergine]

Do computer based eq then. You can set a lot of stuff up that way.
Grab a microphone and get software to do that.

I would if i knew what i was doing

I will probably just buy that sonarworks thing and let it do it for me

 

[Aubergine]

Or the arc system need to do some more research

 

[Jdunk54nl]

Or the arc system need to do some more research

Isn't anthem room correction only in their products? And they aren't cheap IIRC.

 

[Aubergine]

I meant the arc system 3 from IK multimedia

 

[AnalogSteph]

Way out of my price range im afraid.

This one seems more " reasonable "

https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_dcx2496_ultradrive_pro_lautsprechermanagement.htm

or this one that i posted earlier

https://www.thomann.de/gb/ik_multimedia_arc_system_3.htm

looks like it does most of the job for you

or this one https://www.thomann.de/gb/sonarworks_soundid_ref_spk_hp_w_mic.htm

not sure which one is better sonaworks or arc system

Note that the likes of Sonarworks are intended for studio use - they imply that you have a phantom powered XLR microphone input available somewhere [1] and a DAW where the software can integrate as a plugin. I would, for example, not know how to integrate Sonarworks into Foobar2000 - while there is a VST plugin for Foobar, it's traditional 32-bit software, while Sonarworks appears to support 64-bit only. I might look into a t.racks 4x4 DSP in conjunction with REW perhaps. The Sonarworks mic comes with a 0° calibration and may be worth picking up on its own for this reason alone.

[1] That, mind you, may be a good idea anyway as it gives you access to a ton of good microphones of all kinds. You may get away with something as basic as a Behringer UMC22 for these purposes (though I would rather prefer a UMC202HD or a Focusrite Scarlett Solo, budget permitting).

For a measurement mic of healthy output like the Sonarworks MEMS job (-37 dBV/Pa if you do the math) I may actually contemplate recruiting your onboard mic input (with +20 dB mic preamp), which quite probably features a higher-quality ADC than the UMC22, cobbling together a setup using
* a phantom power adapter and
* a 3.5 mm to 1x XLR cable
Sticking with Thomann, I think Millenium Pocket Phantom + pro snake Camera Cable should work, plus a regular XLR mic cable of course (BTW, the Camera Cable description says T and R are shorted but that makes no sense whatsoever as it would preclude the mics from working and that doesn't seem to be the case, possibly a copy/paste fail). Ideally you would also combine L and R channels out-of-phase (invert one, downmix to mono), but I don't know of any software that would do it in realtime.

 

[Aubergine]

Note that the likes of Sonarworks are intended for studio use - they imply that you have a phantom powered XLR microphone input available somewhere [1] and a DAW where the software can integrate as a plugin. I would, for example, not know how to integrate Sonarworks into Foobar2000 - while there is a VST plugin for Foobar, it's traditional 32-bit software, while Sonarworks appears to support 64-bit only. I might look into a t.racks 4x4 DSP in conjunction with REW perhaps. The Sonarworks mic comes with a 0° calibration and may be worth picking up on its own for this reason alone.

[1] That, mind you, may be a good idea anyway as it gives you access to a ton of good microphones of all kinds. You may get away with something as basic as a Behringer UMC22 for these purposes (though I would rather prefer a UMC202HD or a Focusrite Scarlett Solo, budget permitting).

For a measurement mic of healthy output like the Sonarworks MEMS job (-37 dBV/Pa if you do the math) I may actually contemplate recruiting your onboard mic input (with +20 dB mic preamp), which quite probably features a higher-quality ADC than the UMC22, cobbling together a setup using
* a phantom power adapter and
* a 3.5 mm to 1x XLR cable
Sticking with Thomann, I think Millenium Pocket Phantom + pro snake Camera Cable should work, plus a regular XLR mic cable of course (BTW, the Camera Cable description says T and R are shorted but that makes no sense whatsoever as it would preclude the mics from working and that doesn't seem to be the case, possibly a copy/paste fail). Ideally you would also combine L and R channels out-of-phase (invert one, downmix to mono), but I don't know of any software that would do it in realtime.

Well i would need some kind of auto eq software that guides me step by step that works with my browser and Steam. Foobar would be nice too. I do have an audio interface and a microphone. AKG D5 and a Rode Ai 1.

 

[abdo123]

I would honestly just get Dirac live license on windows with Bass control.

and an UMIK-1 for microphone.

Dirac will do all the phase things mentioned in this thread.

 

[Aubergine]

I would honestly just get Dirac live license on windows with Bass control.

and an UMIK-1 for microphone.

Dirac will do all the phase things mentioned in this thread.

So you think it would be better to go the software route rather than buy something like a Behringer DCX2496?

 

[abdo123]

So you think it would be better to go the software route rather than buy something like a Behringer DCX2496?

yes, hardware route is only advantageous when you have more than one input (record player, TV .etc)