Just back home from a long day.Anyone going to Munich? I'll be there on May 11th (2nd visit in my life, 1st one a long long time ago in Frankfurt).
10% or retail is pretty normal for cars. The other 90% covering R&D, design, marketing, tooling and, of course, profit. Advertising budgets are typically higher per unit than BOM because if you can’t get people knowing about it you won’t sell any.So... LTig liked two dsp-controlled 3-way speakers best.
Looking the price tag on Grimm and Kii makes me smile inside. Drivers from eg. SEAS, pair of Hypex FA 3-way boards, some know-how and carpentery can lead to world class sound by DIY at 10% of cost. Making it a business venture is not easy though.
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I didn't know the Grimms were DSP controlled. I just like neutral speakers. In 2004 I replaced magnetostatic panelspeakers by active 3-way studio monitors (first reaction after listening to the O300D in my room: "I didnt' knew the Maggies were soooo bad"). Becoming used to linear frequency response and great dynamics all systems were replaced over the years by studio monitors (even the wife's).So... LTig liked two dsp-controlled 3-way speakers best.
With DIY you may be able to make a similar enclosure with identical drivers and electronics. The real knowhow is in the programming of the DSP, and I see no easy way to reengineer this. The only way I can see is to get hold of an LS1, open its foot and do a lot of measurements with first rate equipment to measure impulse response and delays of each driver. Il Grimm is clever there software detects this and outputs nothing or something wrong ...Looking the price tag on Grimm and Kii makes me smile inside. Drivers from eg. SEAS, pair of Hypex FA 3-way boards, some know-how and carpentery can lead to world class sound by DIY at 10% of cost. Making it a business venture is not easy though.
Where is the jealous button?What immaculate taste you have LTig!
Keith
Sitting in front of both Grimm LS1bes and Kii/BXT at this very moment .
No, sorry. I was in a hurry because I was there for one day only and there was so much to see and hear.Did you get a chance to take a close look at the Grimm MU-1?
And the opposite is probably true as well.I completely agree about the Devores -- the love they get is a mystery to me. Maybe those who love the sound of the Grimms -- like me and you -- are predisposed not to like the Devores.
Yes, the difference between production cost and retail price can be amazing. I can tell these stories:10% or retail is pretty normal for cars. The other 90% covering R&D, design, marketing, tooling and, of course, profit. Advertising budgets are typically higher per unit than BOM because if you can’t get people knowing about it you won’t sell any.
The R&D pays for the know how and prototypes. Tooling investment makes the individual parts cost lower and varies hugely depending on production volume. Profit tends to be high, if only to allow dealers to offer a discount.
When I worked for Garrard the recommended retail price allowed the dealer to offer a 30% discount, common at the time, and still make a profit.
Yes, the difference between production cost and retail price can be amazing. .....