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JBL Control 29AV-1 Review (PA/Outdoor Speaker)
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If you can't find fried clams anywhere near Somerville you gotta be actively blocking them out lol!
Former Burlington-ite here!
I’m in seattle for the next 2 weeks and woukd like an invitation to the party please
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Hello,
It looks like the rule rather than the exception, bass reflex ports are more interference than they are worth.
Drive the bung in the hole and move on.
Get a sub.
Thanks DT
It looks like the rule rather than the exception, bass reflex ports are more interference than they are worth.
Drive the bung in the hole and move on.
Get a sub.
Thanks DT
Andreas007
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Amir, why without grill?
Any reason behind that? I guess most people will leave the grill on for protection, especially outdoors.
Any reason behind that? I guess most people will leave the grill on for protection, especially outdoors.
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What da panther do
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If you have protected environment you can opt to use it without grill. It doesn't provide a ton of protection anyway from the elements. Also, good to see the pure performance of the speaker without the interference from the grill.
OP
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He is trying for different roles until he settles on one....
Lol! Exactly what I thought until you said and I zoomed in.At the first glance I mistook the fire fighter panther for a wizard and thought the hose was his wand ^^'
Got me excited for some JBL magic ...
Mostly on the site with my phone
I needed some new outdoor speakers and thought these looked interesting from looking through the JBL spec sheet that they could possibly work indoors as well. Because of that I thought it would be interesting to measure them with the grill off. One note about the grill is that it is extremely well built and in addition to the grill there is a thin foam insert behind the grill. I am guessing this is an additional set of weather protection to keep the moisture out of the front port (you can see the crossover when looking through the port). It seems to be a very clever way to get a ported speaker designed for outdoor use.
I have a pair of Polk (OW3 I think) on our deck and wanted to be able to play louder and have better bass on our deck/patio. We have no neighbors nearby so we can play loudly when we want. Getting good bass outdoors isn’t very easy and came across this model as well as the Control 30 and 31. I ended up getting these for around $250 each delivered and these 2 were new in box (Purchased a used one that ended up being broken and had to be refunded on as well). From the spec sheet some things looked interesting...
-continuous max spl of 112dB /short term 118dB
-Flat/even ish response
-Due to the port, good bass extension down to 43hz
-Integrated mounting hardware
-Good directivity
-Rotatable Horn for mounting horizontal
I have had one at home as well and have played it both indoors and outdoors as well. Outdoors this speaker does exactly what I hoped. When placed against a wall bass is very good with music and overall it sounds very good. I ended up with these filters that seemed to improve sound. The low shelf filter improved bass at normal listening volumes. The high pass seemed to help when bass was boosted at higher volumes. Look forward to trying Pierre’s EQ as well.
Indoors I compared it to my Revel C208 and the difference in directivity stood out the most. When playing both in mono (separately) the C208 seemed much wider. From the measurements, the only bad thing is the tweeter distortion measurements which seemed a bit surprising.
All in all happy with it. And for fun, to get an idea of the size…
I have a pair of Polk (OW3 I think) on our deck and wanted to be able to play louder and have better bass on our deck/patio. We have no neighbors nearby so we can play loudly when we want. Getting good bass outdoors isn’t very easy and came across this model as well as the Control 30 and 31. I ended up getting these for around $250 each delivered and these 2 were new in box (Purchased a used one that ended up being broken and had to be refunded on as well). From the spec sheet some things looked interesting...
-continuous max spl of 112dB /short term 118dB
-Flat/even ish response
-Due to the port, good bass extension down to 43hz
-Integrated mounting hardware
-Good directivity
-Rotatable Horn for mounting horizontal
I have had one at home as well and have played it both indoors and outdoors as well. Outdoors this speaker does exactly what I hoped. When placed against a wall bass is very good with music and overall it sounds very good. I ended up with these filters that seemed to improve sound. The low shelf filter improved bass at normal listening volumes. The high pass seemed to help when bass was boosted at higher volumes. Look forward to trying Pierre’s EQ as well.
Indoors I compared it to my Revel C208 and the difference in directivity stood out the most. When playing both in mono (separately) the C208 seemed much wider. From the measurements, the only bad thing is the tweeter distortion measurements which seemed a bit surprising.
All in all happy with it. And for fun, to get an idea of the size…
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I have a couple of Control 30’s in my shop..I guess they’re the 3-way version of these (with a 5”coaxial mid/1” compression driver). To be honest, I prefer the sound of the PSB CS1000’s that are on my deck over my shop’s JBL’s. The JBL’s will take much more power and play extremely loud if asked, but the PSB’s just seem have a more pleasant character to them…idk, more “refined” maybe? I like them enough that I bought another pair for my cottage.
edit: I found some NRC measurements for the CS1000 here. They appear to measure pretty well, which makes me feel better about my subjective opinion
edit: I found some NRC measurements for the CS1000 here. They appear to measure pretty well, which makes me feel better about my subjective opinion
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I do and i think it is a great thing to have.
OP
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Outdoor scenarios are not just residential (which is a big market by itself) but also commercial. Our company does a lot of that business for both domain. Here are a set of JBL CBT speakers we installed at the Great Wheel in Seattle for example: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ransducer-speakers-in-commercial-project.310/
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