I got rid of vinyl after 60 years and it changed my life.
I look at vinyl now as a waste of time, aggravation, money, and space.
I look at vinyl now as a waste of time, aggravation, money, and space.
... semantics aside, after auditioning a friends pi/topping e30dac ... totally agree "convenience unmatched in human history" ... my motive as i melt into my listening chair, every control at my fingertips, may never a need to move again ...Did promise but you had to pull me back...
Not being pedantic but...
Convenience is not a function, it is an attribute. Streaming' function is to deliver music (and some other media), and it acquits itself of such, with a level of convenience unmatched in human history.
Really out this time...
Peace.
Nothing wrong with it at all...have fun. But there's nothing intrinsic to any specific format that makes it more "musical" and any suggestion that vinyl is a better way to enjoy music than any other way would be pretty silly...
"I listen to music every single day—it’s one of my favorite things in life. I also bought my first turntable a few months ago and have wondered what it’d be like to only listen to vinyl for an entire week. So recently, I did just that and I have a lot of thoughts about the experience.
My history with music is lifelong. As far back as I can remember, I’ve always had some means of listening to it within arm’s reach. I even shamelessly toted around one of those ridiculous binders full of CDs. I was thrilled when I could finally upgrade to an iPod, and I’m pretty sure I actually cried tears of joy when streaming music services were first announced.
But as I’ve spent more and more time with Spotify (and eventually, SiriusXM, Tidal, and YouTube Premium), I think I slowly started to take music for granted. It eventually became background noise to me, like an accessory I had to have yet never paid much attention to anymore. I was thinking about all of this recently, and it hit me how desperate I was to do something about it and reconnect with music."
I Swapped Spotify for Vinyl and It Changed My Life
I listen to music every single day—it’s one of my favorite things in life. I also bought my first turntable a few months ago and have wondered what it’d be like to only listen to vinyl for an entire week. So recently, I did just that and I have a lot of thoughts about the experience.www.reviewgeek.com
I got rid of vinyl after 60 years and it changed my life.
I look at vinyl now as a waste of time, aggravation, money, and space.
A Raspberry Pi and a cell phone changed my life just a little bit but in a very good way.
The author has gone from one poor relationship with music to a different way that I say is still a problem.
I luv vinyl, but hate cleaning lps, no let me rephrase ... i dread with a passion having to clean lps ... certainly my least favorite task in all audio.I had hundreds of LPs. When CDs came out I switched pretty fast. To me, the difference in noise floor was the key, plus I didn't have to worry about cleaning, avoiding warping, isolating the turntable in my college dorm room, etc.
This is not a "problem" unless you make it one. why cant u allow her relationship with music to be her preference without that having to be justified or adhering to your own specific standards?
You assume ... u dont really know her connection or "relationship" with music as much as you would understand my personal sonic preferences or motives ... with any format.Nobody is saying she can't have "her relationship." We're saying it ain't the vinyl that makes the relationship.
You assume ... u dont really know her connection or "relationship" with music as much as you would understand my personal sonic preferences or motives ... with any format.
no reason to interject your own bias and reasoning into the fold as some sort of standard / "problem" ...
Since i bought the Vandies an correct them with DSP/room correction I rediscoverd my music again (physical & ripped CD's, LP's). But i 'm not missing sleeves booklets etc. A nice evening spent with my gear an music is sitting in my listening chair consume the music an if i need more info i take my phone an browse the internet to find specific information regarding the album/artist . The information found is so hugh an informative you never ever could find that on the sleeve or booklet.I enjoy reading the song lyrics in a cd booklet or vinyl sleeve while listening to an album front to back. I sit in my lazy chair and do nothing else. No other distractions. When I'm working behind my PC I fire up Spotify. There's room for both.
exactly ... perhaps we r debating the same debate ...The point is that the relationship to the music is not defined by the medium.
exactly ... perhaps we r debating the same debate ...
... grew up w/brother, phenomenal guitar player, hated his guitar bc it got him all the pretty girls, but i digress ... all those years of him practicing and playing solo in bedrooms, leading to bands in basements then exiled to garage, leading to school concerts ...
the sound of dynamic live music & guitars, live & recorded, ingrained in my head, forever. which prob. explains my "relationship" with this hobby more than anything else, including format.
1 thing about recording over all those years ... was relatively easy to hear any decline in hearing w/higher freq. content using test tones ...the sound of live music from concerts and band practices certainly plays a part in my relationship to music, and in my hearing damage!
But there's nothing intrinsic to any specific format that makes it more "musical" and any suggestion that vinyl is a better way to enjoy music than any other way would be pretty silly...
in fact, the only thing vinyl really has in it's favor is the artifact appeal and nostalgia. It certainly isn't convenient or portable and the sound quality is demonstrably not better than any other format except maybe cassettes.
Hi.
Hope this is not construed as crapping on a thread but rather of a , very , contrarian view:
Interesting experiences. Very , very personal. I understand the singing paeans to Vinyl and the ritual associated with playing it ... These however don't, can't reflect the view of the majority, I would guess 99.999999%, of the world population. This is not because of the lack of fidelity of the medium. No! It is because it no longer accomplishes itself as well of its primary function, as the now commonly available digital alternatives: Music is an art form enjoyed by the world population, for so many societal and human functions. Vinyl was an intermediary steps into bringing Music to the people. We are past it/them/LP... just like we are past mechanical watches... I for one, love my mechanical, inaccurate watches and have a few, whose value for me, is certainly not into what should have been their primary function, which is to tell the time. Same with Vinyl.
If it floats someone's boat.. then fine, but it doesn't do much for music reproduction or in bringing it to most.
Since making of Spotify my primary music source, I have never enjoyed so much music (and enjoyed music so much) in my 5 decades of very passionate music listening .
Sorry.
peace.
I got rid of vinyl after 60 years and it changed my life.
I look at vinyl now as a waste of time, aggravation, money, and space.
The author has gone from one poor relationship with music to a different way that I say is still a problem. Firstly, she used music in a way that separates it from being appreciated. The typical iPod user was someone who had music as a kind of companion, but only ever background noise, maybe spotting the odd tune, probably collecting a large quantity of music, but never really listening. I've watched a lot of people have that relationship with music. She admits it herself - taking music for granted.
The answer to this is to get out to concerts, to make time to actually listen to music at home, anything that gets you a relationship to the music. The best thing I ever did was not to go down the iPod road. It was bad enough that I listened to some once-favourite music back in the 1990s when working on my degree assignments,. I was doing something other than relating to the music. Carrying music everywhere with you as a cocoon is a mistake, if you ask me.
The second bad move is to fetishise a form of playback which, when compared to others, restricts listening in a number of ways. It limits to music in particular size blocks. You have limitations that, really, get in the way of listening - critical imperfections in the sound, the need to maintain pieces of mechanical engineering and fragile discs that require their own cleaning and maintenance. It's not using that method (I know plenty of non-audiophiles who continue to play their records but don't assign a special value to it - it's just what that piece of music is on, not a matter of veneration).
It is still a big improvement on the iPod way of doing things. Now she's taking time with the music,, and that's a good thing. My attitude to music is that you have to pay attention and work at the relationship to get the most out of it. That may not be just listening - dancing and playing an instrument are also ways to actively relate to music, which is what I'm getting at here. Of course, as a 61 year old I spent the first chunk of my hifi life with vinyl, because that was what we had. It's not vinyl that is the problem, we find many other things to get in the way. That's the true problem with rampant subjectivism - listening to the system not the music, and looking for the answer to your problems in the equipment.
It's a paradox I see here, and in myself - the medium shouldn't be the message but we make it so. That article - we see it just as espousing vinyl - but it's not really about that. It's about someone's problematic relationship to music and showing that the relationship can change.
Watchnerd got it right with the quotes pulled out in the OP. Thanks.