How does the Genelec “The One” line compare to the Amphion studio monitors?

[Diplo]

Looking for a new pair of mixing speakers.
I hear good thinks about the Amphion’s, but I’m hoping to get some advice from someone who has heard both!

 

[sweetchaos]

This is the only Amphion spinorama we have:

Amphion Argon1 Quasi-Anechoic Spinorama and Measurements (Updated)

I recently got the Ampion Argon1s in for review. Though I haven't had time to run the full suite of measurements (hard to find the time to run 70 sweeps without annoying my SO) I did run some horizontal measurements today. I'll probably redo them as they were a little more rushed than I'd...

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Ouch. Major issues present.

I would choose Genelec any day over these, especially for mixing, where neutrality and low distortion are important. In other words, Genelec and Neumann are kings of mixing monitors, for a good reason.

 

[Pearljam5000]

This is the only Amphion spinorama we have:

Amphion Argon1 Quasi-Anechoic Spinorama and Measurements (Updated)

I recently got the Ampion Argon1s in for review. Though I haven't had time to run the full suite of measurements (hard to find the time to run 70 sweeps without annoying my SO) I did run some horizontal measurements today. I'll probably redo them as they were a little more rushed than I'd...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Ouch. Major issues present.

I would choose Genelec any day over these, especially for mixing, where neutrality and low distortion are important. In other words, Genelec and Neumann are kings of mixing monitors, for a good reason.

What would you choose for mastering?

 

[dfuller]

What would you choose for mastering?

KH420s, 1237s, ATC 110s, something that can be flush mounted in a dedicated room.

 

[subframe]

Having spent time comparing 8351s and Amphion One15s (along with Focals, Barefoots, Adams and Neumanns) for mixing, I’d say this: the Genelec’s overall have more technical abilities than the Amphion. They go deeper and louder and have a wider sweet spot and present transients in a more visceral manner. The Amphions truly present a very very transparent view into the music though, a naturalness that was missing in all the others I listened too, though I’ve heard it with ATCs.

I ultimately chose Genelec for their abilities and their Coaxial dispersion which was important in my room.

I’d love to hear the bigger Amphions though.

Now this is all subjective, and this being ASR, will be met with derision (and rightly so, its what ASR is for!). But when it came time to spend my own money on mixing tools, the Amphions were a very very strong contender for that purpose.

There’s a huge Amphion thread on Gearspace, it’s worth reading.

Edit: I should note, I was using a range of mixes to evaluate those speakers, including my own, so yes I know that the Amphions were telling me the truth about the mix. Most of the monitors I tested did, in their own way

 

[Purité Audio]

I have found that if listeners are used to speakers with , let’s call it ‘thrum’ ( colouration) then it can be quite difficult to hear speakers without it with far less colouration certainly at first, listeners consider understandably that the sound they are used to is the ‘correct’ sound even when it really isn’t.
Keith

 

[lowkeyoperations]

This is the only Amphion spinorama we have:

Amphion Argon1 Quasi-Anechoic Spinorama and Measurements (Updated)

I recently got the Ampion Argon1s in for review. Though I haven't had time to run the full suite of measurements (hard to find the time to run 70 sweeps without annoying my SO) I did run some horizontal measurements today. I'll probably redo them as they were a little more rushed than I'd...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Ouch. Major issues present.

I would choose Genelec any day over these, especially for mixing, where neutrality and low distortion are important. In other words, Genelec and Neumann are kings of mixing monitors, for a good reason.

Argon 1s are from the hifi range and are ported, so probably irrelevant to this thread.

I would certainly say Genelec and Neumann are the kings of active studio monitors used for hifi. In fact, I preferred my Neumanns as hifi speakers over mixing monitors.

I have owned both Neumann KH120s and Amphion One15s. Of these two the One15s are hands down better for mixing. Changes in compressor settings and eq are much easier to hear on the One15s and the bass is a lot easier to judge than the KH120s.

The One15s are great mixing tools as long as you are using them in the nearfield and won’t be tracking. They don’t go super loud.

I haven’t heard the Two series, but over at gearspace there are plenty of people who own them in the “Amphion Beautiful” and “High end nearfield test” threads.

 

[RobL]

Argon 1s are from the hifi range and are ported, so probably irrelevant to this thread.
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S&R tested the One18’s as well as a couple of the Ones series:

Amphion One18-

Genelec 8331A-

Genelec 8361A-

That’s a whole lotta IMD in that One18…

 

[thewas]

That’s a whole lotta IMD in that One18…

2-way vs good 3-way.

 

[Scholl]

That’s a whole lotta IMD in that One18…

It has to be noted that the scale on the IMD graphs is not the same for the three speakers.

- Amphion One 18 : 0dB to 100dB, volume at 90dB
- Genelec 8331A : 20dB to 100dB, volume at 90dB
- Genelec 8361A : 30dB to 110dB, volume at 100dB

Therefore, the IMD looks much worse on the One18 compared to the Genelecs. And even the 8331A and 8361A are not comparable since the volume at which they have been measured is not the same.

That being said, and all other things being equal, a good three-way is indeed going to be better than a two-way speaker as far as IMD in concerned, as thewas pointed it out.

 

[RobL]

It has to be noted that the scale on the IMD graphs is not the same for the three speakers.

- Amphion One 18 : 0dB to 100dB, volume at 90dB
- Genelec 8331A : 20dB to 100dB, volume at 90dB
- Genelec 8361A : 30dB to 110dB, volume at 100dB

Therefore, the IMD looks much worse on the One18 compared to the Genelecs. And even the 8331A and 8361A are not comparable since the volume at which they have been measured is not the same.

That being said, and all other things being equal, a good three-way is indeed going to be better than a two-way speaker as far as IMD in concerned, as thewas pointed it out.

Good points…Jeesh, complex passages must sound like a cacaphony.

 

[lowkeyoperations]

Also, in Australia…

One18’s $5,195 a pair
Genelec 8361’s $ 17,450 a pair.

But generally in the Amphion range, the One15s seem to be the pick of the range for nearfields and the Two18’s the pick for midfields.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Love the colors