Glitchy Schitt

[Purité Audio]

Post 544 onwards, thoughts?
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f...alogue-converter-available-24351/index22.html


Keith.

 

[March Audio]

OMG, surely that could not have been released with such an obvious problem???????

Bet the audiophiles love the sound

 

[Purité Audio]

It obviously isn't good but at -90dB how audible ?
Keith.

 

[March Audio]

It obviously isn't good but at -90dB how audible ?
Keith.

Ahhhh missed the signal was-90. That puts it in a different light, however I think I would still look elsewhere

 

[JoeWhip]

This is a great sounding DAC. I have heard it numerous times in two different systems. Knock it all you want. I love it.

 

[John Kenny]

Isn't this glitch energy seen in the datasheet of the AD5791BRUZ chip but I think I remember Schiit talking about their glitch reduction output circuitry?

 

[Purité Audio]

I am not 'knocking'the dac as such, I am surprised a product was released measuring as it does, I just wonder whether that glitchis audible .
Many listeners appear to enjoy poor measuring components,
Keith

 

[JoeWhip]

Perhaps, or perhaps it was one bad piece of equipment or maybe the poster at CE has an agenda. Who knows.? I am sure Mike Moffat will address it at CA.

 

[Phelonious Ponk]

What was the Schitt DAC Amir's son had for a couple of days? It didn't sound right so Amir measured it and, if memory serves, found unacceptable jitter levels? That's probably enough to move Schitt products out of my personal consideration set. And yes, I understand that I may miss some good products doing that, but there are plenty of others to choose from, so I'll never feel the loss. I do appreciate, however, the spontaneous and often inadvertent humor generated by the name. The use of the phrase "Schitt house sound" in one of the posts over on CA made me giggle. I can always use a giggle.

Tim

 

[Thomas savage]

I am waiting for them to bring out the 'Total' schiit dac.

 

[AJ Soundfield]

That's probably enough to move Schitt products out of my personal consideration set.

Keep in mind they are aimed at audiophiles. Beside the usual recipe of bling looks, price, weight, etc, it most certainly doesn't hurt for a component that is suppose to pass the signal transparently, to instead possess a "sound". SFX boxes are an audiophiles delight, perhaps this is yet another one.

cheers,

AJ

 

[Phelonious Ponk]

I am waiting for them to bring out the 'Total' schiit dac.

They should branch out. I'd love The Complete Unadulterated Schitt phono preamp.

Tim

 

[Thomas savage]

They should branch out. I'd love The Complete Unadulterated Schitt phono preamp.

Tim

They could make a robust dac for adventurist folks, construction sites too.........The 'Tough' schiit dac

 

[hvbias]

I compared samples 1 and 2 that mani put up (glitch and de-glitched using Peter's filter) using foo_abx and I was not able to pass an ABX test using Stax headphones. Yet people in the thread said they were hearing differences with their Macbook speakers.

File 3 and 4 were his own DAC without and with glitch filter respectively, which theoretically shouldn't have made any difference since his DAC doesn't glitch. But people reported differences on those files as well.

Side note, I didn't see a member introduction forum. I'm yet another old WBF member (haven't logged in there in a few years), nice to see a forum of this nature.

 

[amirm]

Side note, I didn't see a member introduction forum. I'm yet another old WBF member (haven't logged in there in a few years), nice to see a forum of this nature.

Hi there. Welcome to the forum! We do have an intro thread but was lost in the weeds. I just made it sticky so that it is more visible: http://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/introductions-anyone.65/

 

[Purité Audio]

Hi HV, wasn't the glitch 90dB down, Iwouldnt hve thought it audible, Mani has 'golden' ears perhaps .
Keith

 

[hvbias]

Thanks Amir, I will write up something a bit later.

Hi HV, wasn't the glitch 90dB down, Iwouldnt hve thought it audible, Mani has 'golden' ears perhaps .
Keith

I thought it was below -90 dB. I thought I heard a minor difference when I wasn't listening blind, but still that difference was extremely small and not backed up by the blind test. If you have the fortitude to go through the rest of the thread after the samples were uploaded there wasn't a single person that said they couldn't hear a difference.

I am a bit (pun intended) of a multibit fan, if I ever had the multi Gungnir or Yggydrasil to hear for myself and liked what I heard the "glitching" wouldn't matter to me

 

[Purité Audio]

Schitt by name shit by nature,what do you make of these measurements.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/...ed-amplifier-measurements#6HYAjoy8GJiWdlm3.97

Keith

 

[tr1ple6]

Schitt by name shit by nature,what do you make of these measurements.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/...ed-amplifier-measurements#6HYAjoy8GJiWdlm3.97

Keith

Interesting contrast between the subjective review and the measurements

 

[hvbias]

Schitt by name shit by nature,what do you make of these measurements.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/...ed-amplifier-measurements#6HYAjoy8GJiWdlm3.97

Keith

Keith do you have measurements for the Cessaro speakers you sell? I am pretty sure they would measure absolutely dreadfully.

At nearly every audio show I've attended they are among the bottom quarter of speakers I have heard and scream horn coloration. Measurement wise one of the explanations must be in the large number high order modulation distortions and the prolonged decay (ringing) of upper mid/treble in CSD plots.

Just saying this since these shit measurements would probably make no difference once connected to a speaker and placed in a listening room. The speaker measurements would be obvious to anyone. Before I sound like one of the fanatic Schiit owners from CA, I have never owned any of their products. I have met and spoke to Jason at Schiit and like that they are selling stuff that doesn't cost the equivalent of a Ferrari.