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Glaciers Appear to be Growing, not Melting in Recent Years

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Doodski

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No doubt about that but petro will not last forever. The stone age didn't finish because we ran out of stones but we can do better and theres no conspiracy to the subsidies petro receives or the pollution it causes.

Full disclosure; I am the last of a 4 generation family that has been moving fuel and lubricants for a living. We have skin in the game but we also know where the future lies.
The future will include petroleum products. It's ingrained in everything we do and have. Yes, we should do what's best for humanity in the terms of our environment but it's not leaving us totally. I'm all for electrification, alternative energy sources, reduction and re-using and education but I'm a realist I think when looking at the petroleum situation.
 

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A significant proportion of the world already lives just lIke that.

@gikigill this is where your future lies:

"Greenies dream of a better world where humans sit on the forest floor wearing animal skins, eating nuts and twigs, starving frequently, bearing children on leaves who die of strep or Cholera by age 6. Try it for a few weeks. After a while, it’s not something that makes most people want to give up housing, central heat and AC, clean water, indoor plumbing, refrigeration, transportation, cotton t-shirts, medical care and so on. The most outspoken greenies are such monster hypocrites words can’t capture the nonsense."
Written by a friend.
 

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I’m starting to get suspicious. Was this thread timed perfectly for when Thomas and Amir are asleep?

The thread is OK. Some big statements are not supported by well established, wide ranging, climate science findings of which there is almost 100 percent consensus

I go with the science. Individuals with no creds, dicking around the edges of this serious topic are hard to take seriously with their anaemic contributions.
 

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A significant proportion of the world already lives just lIke that.
If they could afford petroleum energy think of where they would be. They would have access to clean water and all that we have. The petroleum is not the source of the issue. The issue is they are poor and have no resources or have bad government.
 

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No doubt about that but petro will not last forever. The stone age didn't finish because we ran out of stones but we can do better and theres no conspiracy to the subsidies petro receives or the pollution it causes.

Full disclosure; I am the last of a 4 generation family that has been moving fuel and lubricants for a living. We have skin in the game but we also know where the future lies.
So this is your family:
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Not on a rational thinking based forum. Get some control of those emotions.

Get some control over your beliefs. Sorry buddy, but climate change is rife with scientific fraud and political objectives to implement socialism.
 

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The Government has had to institute rights for African-Americans and LGBT in the USA. It took the right of some folks to be bigots but that's a matter for another discussion.

You might be in more for a shock if you saw how your taxes support the car and fossil fuel industry.
Every car or fossil fuel industry anywhere in the world depends on Govt handouts whether American or Japanese or Chinese or Indian or whatever.

Wow, talk enjoy false equivalency. One was a legitimate human rights struggle. The other is mentally ill people trying to get bathroom signs changed.

Yes, a US president had to mobilize the national guard to enforce racial equality. Remember what happened to that president? He got murdered by government.
 

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Get some control over your beliefs. Sorry buddy, but climate change is rife with scientific fraud and political objectives to implement socialism.

Show me. Leave the conspiracy theory out of it and stick to validation of your opinions.
 

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I’m starting to get suspicious. Was this thread timed perfectly for when Thomas and Amir are asleep?
Thomas and Amir are half a world away from each other, and Thomas has already commented in this thread. Don't look for some conspiracy.
 

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Thomas and Amir are half a world away from each other, and Thomas has already commented in this thread. Don't look for some conspiracy.

ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, CNN, the C stands for conspiracy in all of them. As for Fox and Breitbart, I'm not sure which letter to jump on.
 
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