Stereophile, our own Napier and Erin have also measured the 8Cs, right appointment booked with the W371’s
What should I be asking, what would you like to know?
Keith
What should I be asking, what would you like to know?
Keith
Sorry to break the mood. The 8Cs measured with professionalism
https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153
Dealer pricing on the speakers and how to avail of it please.What should I be asking, what would you like to know?
Stereophile, our own Napier and Erin have also measured the 8Cs, right appointment booked with the W371’s
What should I be asking, what would you like to know?
Keith
Just to be clear the thesis is not mine, I was just aware of it's applicability to your questionI loved how you broke apart several different aspects of preference and showed the differences for each. Also interesting to me is that the test was done in stereo, and many of the benefits of the narrower LF dispersion showed in the perception of the phantom stereo image.
Perhaps they will demo the GLM software too and part of that will give room compensation and the various choices. It looks like you can get whatever FR you want in GLM. Some people complain about the default, such as it is, being a bit bright but I am sure they will show you! I think they give the possibility for the user to adjust to taste rather than impose the FR.Appointment to hear these at the London Gen UK ( Wells Street )centre initiated.
I would really like to take my mic and laptop, it would be really interesting to have some real room comparative measurements.
Keith
To start, just go look at the specs and info on Genelec’s website: https://www.genelec.com/w371a
The W371A is not marketed as a subwoofer; they call it a “woofer system” that achieves (cardioid) directional bass via two opposed bass drivers (one facing forward on the top, and one backward on the bottom of the rear). These two (sub?)woofers do not play the same signal, but the back woofer will be playing a DSP processed derivative which when combining in the room with the pressure waves from the front woofer, forms a directional beam of bass pointing forward. That controlled directivity is what is special about this — because this is in contrast to the omnidirectional sound that most “traditional” subwoofers have, which also has the notorious problems with interacting with room modes, making it nearly impossible to achieve perfect bass for more than one or two carefully tuned precise listening positions.
The Genelec W371A claims to solve the notorious room interaction issues that subs have, achieving a far more consistent sound throughout the room which I also expect may have a far more preferable subjective quality as well due to the narrower directivity causing the pressure waves to be more frontal and consistently distributed across the listeners body when feeling the tactile sensation of bass.
And that law is called? I agree with you for very low frequencies, it is hard to achive with small speakers, but it is NOT impossible because physics says so. In PA it is very common to use woofer stacks to shape directity. Nice collection in german to be found here.By physics, cardioid sound directivity cannot be achieved in the bass region
https://www.me-geithain.de/en/rl-901k2.htmlI completely disagree with the term "cardioid" used to describe his functionnality. By physics, cardioid sound directivity cannot be achieved in the bass region,
one + w371 and 8c cardioid difference is very big, w371 brings 4 low-frequency units, 20 ~ 300hz, after dsp calculation, almost completely flat curve and sound, cardioid only improve 100 ~ 300hz sbir, below 100hz is no help, far from doing the level of w371.
You can see my test specifically
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...elec-8361-w371-evolution-or-revolution.14410/
Wednesday 10.00, if anyone has any questions..
I will ask for measurements of the mains alone and then in conjunction with the various modes, they may agree.
Keith
w371 has 5 modes, the most common mode is to use 4 low-frequency units to smooth 23 ~ 300hz, to obtain a flat curve in this range, like as multi-subI think I agree with you that the cardioid in the low bass is not really a thing in small room(home) listening. I'd rather have extra power and efficiency below 100Hz, like the 8C does(Kii does cardioid down to 50 same as the W371). Note though that the W371 does have another "complimentary" mode that seems to forgo the low bass directivity and uses the two woofers to smooth out the steady state response.
It is 9.58 in the UK on Wednesday now, so your question is prematureHow was it? Would be really cool if you also sold Ones + W371. I think it would fit well with your objectively SOTA lineup.