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Genelec 8361+W371:Evolution or Revolution?

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我是中国第一对8361 + W371客户:)
我房间的大小约为3.x * 4.x米。
这是我房间里8361 + 371的实际GLM实际测量值。
我认为这对于演讲者来说是一项里程碑式的技术突破 :)
Genelec为这对扬声器引入了评分系统，左侧为频率响应平坦度评分，右侧为左/右扬声器频率响应一致性评分。
我最高的91分接近中国优秀工作室的92分！Genelec的芬兰研发中心为99美分。
难以置信的！
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这是8361本身。请注意，扬声器是随机放置的，并非故意放置的
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这是选择了平面模式的w371叠加后的频率响应
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令人难以置信！注意交叉点，系统自动设置为210hz。我将范围设定在300hz以下
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Genelec引入了第一个评分系统。左边的分数是频率响应平坦度，右边的分数是左右扬声器的频率响应一致性。
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接下来是其他371种操作模式的测试图和评分，可以看出它们之间存在显着差异。371共有五种工作模式
8361和371也具有明显不同的交叉点
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谢谢Genelec的帮助，让我可以轻松在家中收听真正的全谱音乐！
 

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Looks nice...
 
My translation:

我是中国第一对8361 + W371客户:)
OP is the first owner of the 8361 and W371 set in China.

我房间的大小约为3.x * 4.x米
His room has an area of 3+m * 4+m

这是我房间里8361 + 371的实际GLM实际测量值。
This is how GLM measures and corrects his in-room response.

我认为这对于演讲者来说是一项里程碑式的技术突破 :)
He thinks for performers(recording engineers/artists?), this is a monumental breakthrough.

Genelec为这对扬声器引入了评分系统，左侧为频率响应平坦度评分，右侧为左/右扬声器频率响应一致性评分。
GLM has a metric for system flatness and correlation/consistency built-in (see screenshots).

我最高的91分接近中国优秀工作室的92分！Genelec的芬兰研发中心为99美分.
The highest score he got was 91. The best in China he had seen was 92, while Genelec's R&D centre scores 99.

难以置信的！
Unbelievable!

The screenshots depict the raw FR and corrected FR in the following order: just 8361, with W371 in Complementary, continuous directivity and floor reduction mode respectively. OP notes that the placement for the speakers was not optimised, but placed arbitrarily.

End of translation.

IMHO, the bass with W371 looks extraordinarily flat in-room, except for the pesky 150Hz SBIR null and a 550Hz null.
 
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Listening distance must be close seeing as the response is virtually flat in the treble when uncorrected? Any reason for shelving down the treble what looks like 3-4dB?
 
Impressive . . . but listening in a padded cell???? o_O
 
@nai se would appreciate if you post in English, even if it is automatically translated.
 
It is surely a very good system. But the combination of speaker and sub looks ugly as hell. Where’s the great, well known Nordic design? Certainly not in this combo!
 
Technically a Great combo indeed... But in the real world, w371 are around 10.000 USD per unit, 8361 are 5000 USD x2, so the system costs around 30.000 USD:eek:, and without being Rockefeller I can't imagine this combo being $ worthy compared to the much cheaper and great 8351b (3000USDx2) + 7360 (2000USDx2) =10.000 USD...! ;)

Had a lot of studio Gear, including some pair of Genelecs (2029, 1030, 1031, 8050, 7060 sub...), always been very happy from them, in my small listering room / Home cinema ...

Just to tell you my experience : as far as I'm concerned, I own
-a MiniDSP DDRC-22D,
-Benchmark DAC3,
- AHB2 amp,
-then a pair of custom Floorstanding Cabasse Baltic Evo - Triaxial spheric "bookshelf" speaker with special passive filter at 100 Hz (https://www.cabasse.com/en/cabasse_product/baltic-4/),
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-each one is coupled with its Santorin 50-500 Sub (12 inches 500W powered, with DSP https://www.cabasse.com/en/cabasse_product/santorin-30-500/).
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The price for the brand new system would be 26000 USD, I got them used for "only"14.000 USD : I had the chance to compare with "La Sphere", the biggest Cabasse all in one System (https://www.cabasse.com/en/cabasse_product/la-sphere/) witch costs 150.000 USD : My system had 90% of the sound for 10% for the price...
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Genelec prices rarely withdraw with time, I hope they'll build a cheaper w371 sub with a cooler design... The WAF factor would prevent me from putting a single w371 in my living room, even if I'm sold them for One Dollar :D Same for the 8350 that are too ugly as I hear everytime I try to show a different picture...:facepalm:
I'm thinking about my system and the Genelec system above (8351/7360), how different they would sound, but there is no Genelec retailer where I live, then badly I'll never be able to make a direct comparison...

If a member living in the USA could send a Cabasse Baltic Evo or Baltic IV on base to Amir for testing, it would be great !! :p (mine are floorstanding, all the cables are built in the floorstand, it would be a slaughter if I had to take the speaker apart :facepalm:)...
 
Fifoumed said:
Technically a Great combo indeed... But in the real world, w371 are around 10.000 USD per unit, 8361 are 5000 USD x2, so the system costs around 30.000 USD:eek:, and without being Rockefeller I can't imagine this combo being $ worthy compared to the much cheaper and great 8351b (3000USDx2) + 7360 (2000USDx2) =10.000 USD...! ;)

Had a lot of studio Gear, including some pair of Genelecs (2029, 1030, 1031, 8050, 7060 sub...), always been very happy from them, in my small listering room / Home cinema ...

Just to tell you my experience : as far as I'm concerned, I own
-a MiniDSP DDRC-22D,
-Benchmark DAC3,
- AHB2 amp,
-then a pair of custom Floorstanding Cabasse Baltic Evo - Triaxial spheric "bookshelf" speaker with special passive filter at 100 Hz (https://www.cabasse.com/en/cabasse_product/baltic-4/),
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-each one is coupled with its Santorin 50-500 Sub (12 inches 500W powered, with DSP https://www.cabasse.com/en/cabasse_product/santorin-30-500/).
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The price for the brand new system would be 26000 USD, I got them used for "only"14.000 USD : I had the chance to compare with "La Sphere", the biggest Cabasse all in one System (https://www.cabasse.com/en/cabasse_product/la-sphere/) witch costs 150.000 USD : My system had 90% of the sound for 10% for the price...
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Genelec prices rarely withdraw with time, I hope they'll build a cheaper w371 sub with a cooler design... The WAF factor would prevent me from putting a single w371 in my living room, even if I'm sold them for One Dollar :D Same for the 8350 that are too ugly as I hear everytime I try to show a different picture...:facepalm:
I'm thinking about my system and the Genelec system above (8351/7360), how different they would sound, but there is no Genelec retailer where I live, then badly I'll never be able to make a direct comparison...

If a member living in the USA could send a Cabasse Baltic Evo or Baltic IV on base to Amir for testing, it would be great !! :p (mine are floorstanding, all the cables are built in the floorstand, it would be a slaughter if I had to take the speaker apart :facepalm:)...
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8351+7360 can only solve problems up to 100hz. 371 can also solve 100-500hz Question:)
371 spl is 120db against 7380, a pair of 371 equals 3 7380s.:facepalm:
 
Fifoumed said:
Why, can't the Genelec autocal work above 100Hz ?! I'm surprised
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For the W371A. They are meant to compensate where necessary in the lower midrange.

It's not that the calibration won't work; it just won't be as effective.
 
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