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Fan-less silent PC

I didn't trust high demand integrated not to crash when running other demanding programs at the same time.
But I really wasn't up to speed on modern hardware. I hadn't looking into things since my last build 2008.
Too lazy to do a bunch of homework. LOL
My last update was in 2019 when I "upgraded" to a i7-9700T, and last year I put in a silent GPU card, but the performance improvement is barely noticeable, IMHO. It still does everything I throw at it perfectly well. I may review next year, mostly because I have fun doing it (while fending off the cat, who tries to collaborate). :)
 
Why a fan if you can go fanless? :)

Yea, that won't work for my pc :cool:. I have a 1300w psu in my machine, to make sure it can handle the continuous power draw, and the transients. I've not seen anything with that kind of capacity that's fan less.
 
Yea, that won't work for my pc :cool:. I have a 1300w psu in my machine, to make sure it can handle the continuous power draw, and the transients. I've not seen anything with that kind of capacity that's fan less.
Indeed, I see why it wouldn't, that's a lot of Watts. I try to keep my personal workstation low power - it still does everything I throw at it very well. But that's for my personal use - semi-pro Camtasia videos productions, Photoshop and such. I am not a gamer at all, which is what tends to be the app requiring the fastest-baddest to be competitive online...
 
Integrated graphics in Intel i CPUs (even older ones) have no problem with 4k streaming. Video production @4k may be somewhat slow though.

Here's my corporate issued computer running a Youtube 4k test @60Hz (normally it'd read 12% average GPU utilization or so though). Incidentally also shows why I'd rather have 64GB on my own build. :)

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30% GPU usage on my mini computer for 4k streaming ... AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, 16 GB RAM, placed in an aluminium case (Akasa). Glued an old case fan on top which is silent from a short distance and reduces the average CPU temperature to max 60°C. Everything except for gaming, photo-/video-editing or ki-processing feels 100% as fast as my gaming pc.
 
Indeed, I see why it wouldn't, that's a lot of Watts. I try to keep my personal workstation low power - it still does everything I throw at it very well. But that's for my personal use - semi-pro Camtasia videos productions, Photoshop and such. I am not a gamer at all, which is what tends to be the app requiring the fastest-baddest to be competitive online...


I used DaVinci Resolve for video editing, and it can be exceptionally demanding. Temporal & spatial noise reduction brings just about every single GPU to it's knees.

For example just now, I applied some light temporal & spatial noise reduction to a UHD 30fps 10 bit 4:2:2 h.264 clip from my GH5. play back was only 17fps and this is what it did to my cpu and gpu (7950x & 7900 xtx).
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“The Taiko Audio Extreme is a State of the Art Music Server designed to deliver the most realistic sounding / live reproduction from stored music files and streaming music from Qobuz and Tidal.”
Is there a reason why something like this would use a dual-socket Xeon platform instead of regular desktop parts? It has flexibility in terms of networking but also adds complexity.
I saw news about this a few days ago, but not sure if it just entered the market or if it's been out for a while. Could be that the article was posted to generate clicks because of the price.
Copilot told me that the last 10-core xeon scalable was 14nm, so those are older parts. 12 RAM modules of the smallest capacity, no modern video interfaces (I know it's a server with VGA, but still).
An SSD always connects to your system via the motherboard DMI chipset. For the Extreme we are using PCIe modules, which connect directly to the CPU and bypasses the DMI. Therefore we achieve speeds up to 4x faster than SSD which results in lower latency and much lower system noise overall, giving you black backgrounds, huge space rendition and brings an ease to the musicians performance, only matched by the very best vinyl and tape playback systems.
Well, that's not true, is it? SSDs can connect to CPU PCIe lanes, my desktop computer has 24 PCIe 5.0 that can be used for all kinds of devices, including SSDs. A server CPU just has more of them.
I hope they offer the best support possible considering the price they're asking.
 
“The Taiko Audio Extreme is a State of the Art Music Server designed to deliver the most realistic sounding / live reproduction from stored music files and streaming music from Qobuz and Tidal.”
Is there a reason why something like this would use a dual-socket Xeon platform instead of regular desktop parts? It has flexibility in terms of networking but also adds complexity.
I saw news about this a few days ago, but not sure if it just entered the market or if it's been out for a while. Could be that the article was posted to generate clicks because of the price.
Copilot told me that the last 10-core xeon scalable was 14nm, so those are older parts. 12 RAM modules of the smallest capacity, no modern video interfaces (I know it's a server with VGA, but still).

Well, that's not true, is it? SSDs can connect to CPU PCIe lanes, my desktop computer has 24 PCIe 5.0 that can be used for all kinds of devices, including SSDs. A server CPU just has more of them.
I hope they offer the best support possible considering the price they're asking.
It is all complete nonsense. It can't perform audibly better than a $30 raspberry pi with competent external DAC.
 
I have at least half a dozen cheap fanless MiniPCs from Beelink and Minix that will do the job as well as this.
Definitely up there with network cables for crazy digital audio woo.
WTF.
 
“The Taiko Audio Extreme is a State of the Art Music Server designed to deliver the most realistic sounding / live reproduction from stored music files and streaming music from Qobuz and Tidal.”
Is there a reason why something like this would use a dual-socket Xeon platform instead of regular desktop parts? It has flexibility in terms of networking but also adds complexity.
I saw news about this a few days ago, but not sure if it just entered the market or if it's been out for a while. Could be that the article was posted to generate clicks because of the price.
Copilot told me that the last 10-core xeon scalable was 14nm, so those are older parts. 12 RAM modules of the smallest capacity, no modern video interfaces (I know it's a server with VGA, but still).

Well, that's not true, is it? SSDs can connect to CPU PCIe lanes, my desktop computer has 24 PCIe 5.0 that can be used for all kinds of devices, including SSDs. A server CPU just has more of them.
I hope they offer the best support possible considering the price they're asking.
It makes no sense.... a basic integrated AMD APU would do the job a heck of a lot cheaper, while probably being more powerful.... the older generation Ryzen 7's with 8 processors and the new releases will be boasting up to 16 processors....

And the entire platform on mass market motherboards, ram, drives etc.... benefitting from mass market pricing.

You can do the same thing and take a zero off the end of the pricetag.
 
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