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PAII Plus for the DBR-62?

thetrystero

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I currently have the following stack in my living room that I'm very happy with:
  • Speakers: ELAC DBR-62
  • DAC: Topping D30Pro
  • Amp: Audiophonics MPA-S250NC
I'm looking to replicate this setup in my bedroom, at the same time maybe save a bit of change.
  • Requirements: XLR from DAC to amp.
  • Use case: Movies and Spotify in bed. I'll be sitting in bed a good 8-9 feet a way from the TV. Bedroom is fairly large (25 - 30 square meters)

At the time that I put my initial stack together about 3-4 years ago those were probably the most cost effective parts I could source and still have decent fidelity. Fast forward to today and that still seems like the case.

I am toying with the idea of giving up quite a bit of headroom, and save USD200 in the process by going with the PAII plus instead of the Hypex (speakers and DAC unchanged). So I asked ChatGPT what he thought (because why not haha). Here's the output below. What do you guys think? Are the points legit? Should I just bite the bullet and stick to my original setup? Or is the topping amp already plenty?


Topping PA5 II Plus vs Audiophonics S250NC​


FeatureTopping PA5 II PlusAudiophonics S250NC
Amplifier TypeTopping NFCA Class D (proprietary)Hypex NC252MP Class D (modular)
Power Output (8Ω)~65 W x2 (1% THD)~150 W x2 (1% THD)
Power Output (4Ω)~125 W x2 (1% THD)~250 W x2 (1% THD)
THD+N (1kHz, 5W)~0.0003%~0.0004%
SNR~127 dB~121 dB
Input TypeBalanced TRS (¼")Balanced XLR
Build / ChassisCompact, desktop-friendly, external PSUFull-width aluminum, robust chassis
Heat DissipationPassive, runs coolPassive, runs cool (heatsink chassis)
Volume ControlNoNo
Price (approx.)~$299~$450–500
Other NotesTRS inputs may require adaptersPure XLR chain (pro-grade layout)

Sound Quality & Character


AspectPA5 II PlusS250NC
Tonal BalanceVery neutral, clean, slightly leanSlight warmth in mids, more weight and body
Detail RetrievalExcellent; precise imagingExcellent; smoother transients, better headroom
Low Volume ListeningClean, dead silentAlso excellent, but has more authority at low volume
Drive CapabilityModerate (sensitive speakers ideal)High (effortless drive for 4–6Ω loads like DBR62)
Synergy w/ DBR62Good, but may lack dynamic depthExcellent; brings out bass and richness in DBR62

System Synergy with ELAC DBR62


  • The ELAC DBR62 is a 4Ω speaker with low sensitivity (~86dB) and can be power-hungry.

✅ Audiophonics S250NC


  • Delivers tons of clean headroom for the ELACs to breathe, especially at low or moderate volume.
  • The slightly warm and rich character of the NC252MP balances the ELAC’s slightly forward treble.
  • Best match for your speaker and DAC chain.

PA5 II Plus


  • Very clean and affordable.
  • But it may feel dynamically restrained on more demanding material due to its limited current delivery into 4Ω loads.
  • Not ideal for large rooms or full dynamic range listening unless you're nearfield.
 
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The subjective sound quality descriptions coming from an algorithm that can't actually hear is hilarious to me
 
Try not to use ChatGPT etc for this sort of thing, it can't even tell that the Topping does have a volume control. The subjective comments are b$%&^cks btw and the Elacs do not have a 'forward' treble (nice speakers)
https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...-debut-reference-dbr-62-speaker-review.12232/

The Topping is a cracking amp, should be absolutely fine.
https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-pa5-ii-stereo-amplifier-review.47362/

Plenty other alternatives; Wharfedale Diamond 12.1? amps by Fosi, 3e and others and there are many new DACs around. Have a poke at the review index here, see what you think
 
Why even bother with the separate DAC and amp? Just get a Wiim Amp (Pro or not) and be done with it.
 
I don't know...125 watts at 4 ohms "may lack dynamic depth" in a bedroom system. Is this just for your listening or are you playing tunes for your neighbors next door too? The Topping already puts out more power than Elac's specified maximum input. I would take their word for it since they designed it.
 
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