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Drops measurements of the Aeon Closed X/2 And Open X/Flow on a graph with Amir's measurements of the Aeon RT (Flow Closed), adjusted to same ratio

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Dashed Lines are the original and Amir's Harman targets, exactly the same for the most part. (Thin and thicc (respectfully))

Solid Green is the Aeon RT (Flow Closed) $500
Solid Red is the Closed X with the single notch filter $380
Solid Blue is the Open X with the single notch filter $400

Dotted Red is the Closed X with no filter
Dotted Blue is the Open X with no filter (Best Open?)

Dotted Sky Blue is the Aeon Flow Open $500
Dotted Coral is the Aeon 2 Closed (Double the price for closest average) $900

Still missing Aeon 2 Open, and I believe the Noir is the same as the 2 Closed, I might be wrong (Also other filter tests)

Conclusions:

Aeon X Open with no filter has the largest offset in the 100-200 Hz area, but closest to target In highs.

Aeon 2 Closed has the smallest disparity in the 100-200 Hz area, not as good highs as the X's, better than the original Flow/RT

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I think I'll go for the Aeon Open X myself since that bump is pretty flat so it should EQ out pretty well
The Closed X is looking pretty good as well, but trying to eq up rather than down seems like its less effective

For the most part both are great especially with this sale price, but if you can afford both instead of jsut one the Aeon 2 Exists and the Noir has the nice colour option, still need to see the 2 Open, not sure if thats a thing actually since there is no open Noire, it might just exist in my head.
 

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I think I'll go for the Aeon Open X myself since that bump is pretty flat so it should EQ out pretty well
The Closed X is looking pretty good as well, but trying to eq up rather than down seems like its less effective

For the most part both are great especially with this sale price, but if you can afford both instead of jsut one the Aeon 2 Exists and the Noir has the nice colour option, still need to see the 2 Open, not sure if thats a thing actually since there is no open Noire, it might just exist in my head.
There is an Aeon 2 Open, just not an open noire. I question how much stock should be taken re: the differences in treble, considering seating issues on the rig
 
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I gotta say Its a little strange the open and the closed have that behavior in the (high bass?). When I put my hands over the sides of the open 598's I'm wearing I get the opposite effect.
 

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I gotta say Its a little strange the open and the closed have that behavior in the (high bass?). When I put my hands over the sides of the open 598's I'm wearing I get the opposite effect.
DCA has said that bump is to improve the sound at lower listening levels
 
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DCA has said that bump is to improve the sound at lower listening levels
makes a lot of sense since many people didnt like them simply because they werent getting loud enough with how current hungry they are... since I am getting a magni heresy to go with them maybe I should get the closed
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makes a lot of sense since many people didnt like them simply because they werent getting loud enough with how current hungry they are... since I am getting a magni heresy to go with them maybe I should get the closed
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I’m guessing that the reports of “dynamic range compression” are from anaemic amps. Their reason for that bump was so that people wouldn’t damage their hearing
 
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I’m guessing that the reports of “dynamic range compression” are from anaemic amps. Their reason for that bump was so that people wouldn’t damage their hearing
Yeah makes sense if people were turning up to try and get bass then the treble would be huge and they might not notice if they only listen to music like [modern] rap etc that just doesn't exist past 2k (usually)

If I was in the US I could probably get both to try out than return the other one, but here in canada stuff always gets stuck at the border for 2 weeks so it would be cutting it close with shipping.. (then UPS says its canada post that is backed up but then as soon as its in canada it arrives in 2 days :p)
 
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Ok I noticed the dt 990 had a bump in the same spot, and I liked the tygr 300r with no eq. Found out the tygr is closer, (best harman besides the stealth?), so EQing the big bump whould get me at least to the small bump on the tygrs which I liked, so I'm gonna go for the open.

Decided to upgrade in the first place bc I wanted a tygr but more comfortable, and always liked they supa tygr idea, looks like this is it. If only I didnt have a sensitive head I'd be getting a discount and the indestructibility but theres other things Im sure ill gain once they go on my head, even if I might lose some imaging. Not a competitive fps gamer anymore anyways.
 

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How have you aligned the curves on the vertical scale? They don't seem to all be aligned at any one frequency. The standard in the scientific literature is to align at 500 Hz. Here are Oratory's measurements of some of these headphones aligned properly:

Harman 2018-Dan Clark Audio Aeon Closed RT-Dan Clark Audio Aeon 2 Closed-Dan Clark Audio Aeon ...png


The Noire and Aeon 2 Closed with perforated pads look to be the best.
 
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How have you aligned the curves on the vertical scale? They don't seem to all be aligned at any one frequency. The standard in the scientific literature is to align at 500 Hz. Here are Oratory's measurements of some of these headphones aligned properly:

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The Noire and Aeon 2 Closed with perforated pads look to be the best.
oh I didnt realize there was a standard, what I did was take the harman curves from both and made sure they fit on top of each other, so since the lines were on the same image as the curve they will be adjusted to the same amount.

Its just the comparisons of the open without a filter and the other flow open that are off at 500 hz so I guess drop did that so it shows the difference from that headphone, since if something was different at 500hz it would be wrong to say they are both 0 at 500hz (at the same input level)
 
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oh I didnt realize there was a standard, what I did was take the harman curves from both and made sure they fit on top of each other, so since the lines were on the same image as the curve they will be adjusted to the same amount.

Its just the comparisons of the open without a filter and the other flow open that are off at 500 hz so I guess drop did that so it shows the difference from that headphone, since if something was different at 500hz it would be wrong to say they are both 0 at 500hz
however its probably best to use the graph you provided, I simply just couldnt find it! The x variants are slightly different though so it wasnt a complete waste of my time since those were the ones I was planning on buying.
 
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Ok I found the project files and aligned them to 500 Hz, had to re draw part of one so thats just a smooth estimate

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Are there measurements floating out there for the Aeon RT Open? Heard they were meant to be similar to the Open X but still curious. I would be interested in seeing a visual comparison between:

Aeon RT Open
Aeon Open X
Aeon 2 Open

Also, from other's measurements it seems the perforated earpads greatly helps the response of the Aeon 2 Closed, so I'm wondering how those would help the response of the other DCA open headphones?
 
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Are there measurements floating out there for the Aeon RT Open? Heard they were meant to be similar to the Open X but still curious. I would be interested in seeing a visual comparison between:

Aeon RT Open
Aeon Open X
Aeon 2 Open

Also, from other's measurements it seems the perforated earpads greatly helps the response of the Aeon 2 Closed, so I'm wondering how those would help the response of the other DCA open headphones?
Yeah couldn't find a lot of details on those at the time, dunno if its changed since
 
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