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Does anyone else like FM?

Mark read the reviews on Sony XDR-F1HD prices have come way down on these with the ebbing of FM.
The Sony XDR-S3HD uses the same chip as the XDR-F1HD, is just as good (better because there is no need to do mods for cooling purposes [and it has not already overheated on someone else] {also any other mods for the F1HD are compatible}).
I use a Sony XDR-S3HD when my NAD Monitor 4300 isn't quite enough to get what I want out of DXing.
In my opinion it's prettier than the Sangean and it definitely is more performant than the Sangean:
Comparison of reception/DXing performance between the Sony XDR-S3HD (which uses the legendary DSP chip also in the XDR-F1HD) and the Sangean HDT-1X. Although both radios perform well, the Sony is able to maintain stereo separation on marginally weak signals much better than the Sangean.

 
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Well, it's not "vintage," but this tiny (car stereo size) HD Radio tuner is a terrific performer except for audiophile use. Our panelist Bob says, "In my situation, it's about the same sensitivity and selectivity as my modded tuners, which is OK. I'm not a DXer. I can't listen to it for too long, though, on my reference system. A stock Yamaha TX-1000 just kills it for sound quality. The difference with a modern outboard decoder with quality parts is even more pronounced." The definitive review of the XDR-F1HD can be found on Brian Beezley's website, and The Audio Critic did another. DXer Tim McVey's review includes bench test results, and Australian DXer Todd Emslie compares the tuner to other modified tuners for DXing.

Our contributor Ken K. adds, "No doubt, this is one of the more sensitive and selective tuners available. AM selectivity is better than anything I remember from 40 years (off and on) of listening, including a Hammarlund SuperPro, Heathkit AJ-30, Alpine car cassette, a National NC-109, and all the hi-fi tuners I've used: Yamaha T-85, TX-1000, T-1, Onkyo T-4711, and others. Having said that, it's not orders of magnitude better -- it's just better. For the first time, I've managed to pull out some obscure daytime stations that are adjacent to weaker local ones with the Sony. However, it's just as susceptible to adjacent-channel HD hash as any other radio. It may be no more sensitive on AM, or slightly more so, but the noise floor is a little lower, allowing this kind of reception. It has also made me more aware of the RFI in my system. HD for casual listening does sound better. I haven't attempted any long-term listening for various reasons. So far, besides locals, I've gotten WOR and WFAN to decode, at about 300 miles, and WBZ, at about 470 miles, when conditions are good. It's almost completely immune to overload and harmonics, and definitely more selective. I'm using a 150' outdoor antenna, and without attenuation it overloads everything but the Sony. I've seen comments elsewhere that the Sony isn't that good with the supplied loop.

"FM selectivity is on par with the Onkyo, which is very good. It will, however, still lose adjacent channels to a strong local station or to HD buzz. Early on, it seemed the Sony would lose stations entirely at the edge of reception, or they'd pop in and out. On the Onkyo, these stations will fade, but usually not drop out entirely. There was some difference in the handling of that in the two tuners. I haven't encountered drop-outs lately. I really miss a dB strength meter on the Sony. As a result, I've settled into a pattern of chasing stations with the Onkyo and then switching to the Sony. It will get just about everything the Onkyo will, which I think is pretty good. During strong (not exceptional) conditions, I've been able to decode two or three HD FM stations from Washington DC at about 110 miles away, and Virginia Beach/Norfolk area stations at about 90 miles. It won't do this regularly, though. Locals are no problem, of course. The switch to an HD signal on FM isn't nearly as dramatic as the difference in sound on AM. I couldn't hear any difference on stations I tested with headphones. That might be an individual thing. Wish list: digital out, fine tuning, adjustable bandwidth, tuning knob, dB strength meter, designer display. I like it. It's my new AM king, and a companion to the Onkyo. It's a keeper."

Our panelist Ray did a shootout: "Since many have touted the XDR-F1HD's DXing capability, that's what I checked it for last night running against a Pioneer TX-9800. Equipment was a 10-element Yagi on a rotor about 28' above ground level. Both tuners were fed from a low-gain buffer/distribution amp. The contest results? They both won. The Sony is super easy to DX with; just tune the station freq. and point the antenna. That's as good as it gets and it IS good. In each case the Pioneer could equal or better the Sony's reception but only after very careful tuning and tweaking. Without the Sony leading the way I wouldn't have found so many signals to home in on. It's too early for me to comment on the Sony's sound but, as others have reported, it's one helluva DXer. In my 24+ tuners none has come this close to the Pioneer at signal grabbing and if you're a tad lazy like ol' RFM tends to be, the Sony XDR-F1HD is the champ... and a lot of tuner for $100 new." Ray supplemented his report with this assessment of the XDR-F1HD's sound: Even with a clear HD signal, "the cellos had no wood." At the same time, the same station's analog signal as received by his Technics ST-S505 had a full and rich sound, i.e., "the cellos had plenty of wood."

Our contributor doug s. chimes in: "I have a lot of sub-$500 tunas that sound better than the XDR-F1HD, unless you are talking about marginal signal-strength stations. Then, the Sony's superior reception moves it to the front, because of its amazing quieting with marginal signals. Its sound is a bit hard and fatiguing for serious listening, even with strong signals, and even on non-HD broadcasts. But it's fine for background listening, and its quieting ability with marginal signals makes it a great DXer. My XDR-F1HD gets one particular station I listen to, in stereo without any noise whatsoever, something that I cannot say about my better analog tunas, including Rotel RHT10, modded Sansui TU-X1, modded HK Citation 18, modded Sony ST-A6B, and since-sold modded Sansui TU-9900, to name a few." And our contributor Greg adds, "I don't find the XDR-F1HD's FM sound quality to be world-class. For example, to my ears its definition and breadth-of-life are significantly inferior to same via good, conventional solid-state tuners such as the Mitsubishi DA-F20. Your mileage may vary. Also, IMHO, the XDR-F1HD's soft-mute errs significantly too far on the side of HF rolloff for the sake of noise reduction as a function of low signal strength. Even for strong signals, the XDR-F1HD's de-emphasis errors are too great for my ears. And for weaker signals, the de-emphasis errors are a show-stopper to me. Too bad the XDR-F1HD doesn't include the option to disable soft-mute. As-is, the tuner's low-noise on weak signals is partly 'fake' SNR by my criteria because it's accomplished by severely rolling-off the upper mids and highs."

Our contributor Pete says, "My unit was a brick as far as performance. There had to be something grossly out of alignment, or perhaps the FM front end suffered some electrostatic damage, either through handling or during manufacture. To make matters worse, the Sony tuner seemed to have a very soft limiting curve. It sounds like it was poor implementation of the Philips chipset in this Sony tuner. The AM performance, however, was very good. It is actually suitable for MW DXing when used with a tunable passive loop antenna such as the Terk AM loop. I've got 18 other communications receivers that already do a better job at that, so I couldn't justify keeping this unit around." And our contributor Ken W. adds, "The muting curve on the XDR-F1HD is from their implementation of the post-demodulation signal processing. Some people seem to like it, but for my weak signals I find it annoying. Recently I measured the noise figures of the front ends on the XDR-F1HD, Sangean HDT-1, Denon TU-1500RD, and Kenwood KT-7500. The XDR-F1HD's was 8 dB, HDT-1 was 7 dB, TU-1500RD was 4 dB, and KT-7500 was slightly less than 3 dB. You can guess which tuner is used for weak signal reception here. However, I do routinely use the Sony for listening to tough signals adjacent to any of the local stations." But our contributor Dave O. points out that Ken is "getting dramatically different measurements from what Brian [Beezley], other engineers (even in Europe), others here [in the FMtuners group], and myself are getting from our Sony tuners. I don't have many strong signals around me, and I get similar measurements to Brian's, and fabulous DX results from the Sony. I have four of them in my home BTW, and the DX performance is similar on all of them."

Our contributor Nick tells us how the XDR-F1HD fares in the UK, where stations can be heard 100 kHz away from strong locals: "It is a HOT DX machine! Is it better than the Onkyo T-4970? Yes it is - the DSP filters are razor-sharp and totally symmetrical, unlike the DYNAS asymmetrical response from the Onkyo. I've still not had the time to do a really thorough tune around, but I'm already hearing things on the Sony that were either impossible or very unlikely on the Onkyo. As for the audio quality, the sound is very clear and 'bright' and the tuner produces noise-free stereo on stations that before had some hiss. However, compared to the Onkyo the audio seems to lack 'authority' and the Onkyo just sounds more 'natural.'"

Our contributor Chuck speculates on the marketing strategy behind the XDR-F1HD's design: "The RF section of the tuner is extremely sensitive, allowing it to pull in many more stations with only a poor antenna, so you have the illusion that you have the same selection of channels on FM that you have now on satellite. Some folks called the Sony tuner's great DXing ability a fluke, but it seems to me that high sensitivity was the plan all along. It also has an overabundance of digital processing in its front end, so FM noise is lowered, but everything sounds like an MP3, just like satellite and internet radio. What common listener will be able to tell the difference? It's interesting that the analog reception is processed digitally in this tuner, possibly to match the noise level of the HD signal. This is probably important for fringe reception where the HD sidebands are not always receivable, and blending of the two is required. But, an important side effect is that even astute listeners now can't tell how 'digital' HD radio sounds, since there's no way to compare directly when listening to a strong local station. No wonder there is no way to defeat the IBOC detector or the adaptive noise reduction. I think this is the likely strategy of terrestrial broadcasters, and why industry conglomerates are so hot on HD radio. They don't care about the audio quality issues, since clearly the majority of the consumer market does not care. They simply want to provide more ways to broadcast ads, and they recognize that satellite radio and the internet are taking their listeners."

Our contributor Scott needed a more sensitive tuner than his Naim NAT 05, so he bought an XDR-F1HD from our panelist Eric. Scott reports: "The Sony is simply an outstanding tuner (all comments on analog FM only). The Naim was great until KDFC 90.3 classical moved their transmitter. The Sony pulls in the signal and plays it in full stereo amazingly. The NAT 05 is the best tuner I have ever heard, still, but one must have a good signal. With a good signal it sounds better than the Sony, no doubt. However the little Sony is so great I purchased another one as a backup!" And our contributor Ray D. did a sort of shootout between the XDR-F1HD and some analog tuners, including a Mitsubishi DA-F30, which you can read about in our writeup for the latter tuner.

After Sony discontinued it, eBay sale prices for the XDR-F1HD shot up and since early 2013 seem to have stabilized in a typical range of $180-325 for unmodded units, or $450-600 or higher for upgraded ones. We've seen frequent lows around $150 and a high of $544 for an unmodded piece, but don't overpay -- this is an extremely common tuner!
 
SE Michigan here, 93.5 FM for Livingston county "stuff" and music.
My take: I'm a part of a bigger thing, called a community, so listening to 93.5 I get my dose of local happenings and music.
Plus - fall Fridays they do ... host the high school football game of the week and when our team is playing I listen / support.
Caveat - I'm a child of the 70's, 62 years old now, so grew up with FM.
Other SE Michigan stations 94.7, 101 ... I kinda grew tired of them, as heard same songs now 100's of time.

I should add have 3 kids who now are 23/21/19.
The older 2 never used to listen to FM radio, now they do occasionally in their car, go figure.
We also have a family Spotify account, so they balance between FM & Spotify.
I can understand that. Local FM stations do have that local touch just as local tv stations do.
 
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Mark read the reviews on Sony XDR-F1HD prices have come way down on these with the ebbing of FM.
It looks interesting. I couldn't find any specs but according to others who posted later in the thread, it has very good performance reception wise, but maybe it has a reliability issue. I wasn't really looking for HD Radio tuning, I don't think it sounds as good as analog FM, but maybe HD would have less interference and noise. If the HD tuning ability was not costing any extra I guess it'd be a plus.
 
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(2008, $100, photo, service manual) search eBay
Well, it's not "vintage," but this tiny (car stereo size) HD Radio tuner is a terrific performer except for audiophile use. Our panelist Bob says, "In my situation, it's about the same sensitivity and selectivity as my modded tuners, which is OK. I'm not a DXer. I can't listen to it for too long, though, on my reference system. A stock Yamaha TX-1000 just kills it for sound quality. The difference with a modern outboard decoder with quality parts is even more pronounced." The definitive review of the XDR-F1HD can be found on Brian Beezley's website, and The Audio Critic did another. DXer Tim McVey's review includes bench test results, and Australian DXer Todd Emslie compares the tuner to other modified tuners for DXing.

Our contributor Ken K. adds, "No doubt, this is one of the more sensitive and selective tuners available. AM selectivity is better than anything I remember from 40 years (off and on) of listening, including a Hammarlund SuperPro, Heathkit AJ-30, Alpine car cassette, a National NC-109, and all the hi-fi tuners I've used: Yamaha T-85, TX-1000, T-1, Onkyo T-4711, and others. Having said that, it's not orders of magnitude better -- it's just better. For the first time, I've managed to pull out some obscure daytime stations that are adjacent to weaker local ones with the Sony. However, it's just as susceptible to adjacent-channel HD hash as any other radio. It may be no more sensitive on AM, or slightly more so, but the noise floor is a little lower, allowing this kind of reception. It has also made me more aware of the RFI in my system. HD for casual listening does sound better. I haven't attempted any long-term listening for various reasons. So far, besides locals, I've gotten WOR and WFAN to decode, at about 300 miles, and WBZ, at about 470 miles, when conditions are good. It's almost completely immune to overload and harmonics, and definitely more selective. I'm using a 150' outdoor antenna, and without attenuation it overloads everything but the Sony. I've seen comments elsewhere that the Sony isn't that good with the supplied loop.

"FM selectivity is on par with the Onkyo, which is very good. It will, however, still lose adjacent channels to a strong local station or to HD buzz. Early on, it seemed the Sony would lose stations entirely at the edge of reception, or they'd pop in and out. On the Onkyo, these stations will fade, but usually not drop out entirely. There was some difference in the handling of that in the two tuners. I haven't encountered drop-outs lately. I really miss a dB strength meter on the Sony. As a result, I've settled into a pattern of chasing stations with the Onkyo and then switching to the Sony. It will get just about everything the Onkyo will, which I think is pretty good. During strong (not exceptional) conditions, I've been able to decode two or three HD FM stations from Washington DC at about 110 miles away, and Virginia Beach/Norfolk area stations at about 90 miles. It won't do this regularly, though. Locals are no problem, of course. The switch to an HD signal on FM isn't nearly as dramatic as the difference in sound on AM. I couldn't hear any difference on stations I tested with headphones. That might be an individual thing. Wish list: digital out, fine tuning, adjustable bandwidth, tuning knob, dB strength meter, designer display. I like it. It's my new AM king, and a companion to the Onkyo. It's a keeper."

Our panelist Ray did a shootout: "Since many have touted the XDR-F1HD's DXing capability, that's what I checked it for last night running against a Pioneer TX-9800. Equipment was a 10-element Yagi on a rotor about 28' above ground level. Both tuners were fed from a low-gain buffer/distribution amp. The contest results? They both won. The Sony is super easy to DX with; just tune the station freq. and point the antenna. That's as good as it gets and it IS good. In each case the Pioneer could equal or better the Sony's reception but only after very careful tuning and tweaking. Without the Sony leading the way I wouldn't have found so many signals to home in on. It's too early for me to comment on the Sony's sound but, as others have reported, it's one helluva DXer. In my 24+ tuners none has come this close to the Pioneer at signal grabbing and if you're a tad lazy like ol' RFM tends to be, the Sony XDR-F1HD is the champ... and a lot of tuner for $100 new." Ray supplemented his report with this assessment of the XDR-F1HD's sound: Even with a clear HD signal, "the cellos had no wood." At the same time, the same station's analog signal as received by his Technics ST-S505 had a full and rich sound, i.e., "the cellos had plenty of wood."

Our contributor doug s. chimes in: "I have a lot of sub-$500 tunas that sound better than the XDR-F1HD, unless you are talking about marginal signal-strength stations. Then, the Sony's superior reception moves it to the front, because of its amazing quieting with marginal signals. Its sound is a bit hard and fatiguing for serious listening, even with strong signals, and even on non-HD broadcasts. But it's fine for background listening, and its quieting ability with marginal signals makes it a great DXer. My XDR-F1HD gets one particular station I listen to, in stereo without any noise whatsoever, something that I cannot say about my better analog tunas, including Rotel RHT10, modded Sansui TU-X1, modded HK Citation 18, modded Sony ST-A6B, and since-sold modded Sansui TU-9900, to name a few." And our contributor Greg adds, "I don't find the XDR-F1HD's FM sound quality to be world-class. For example, to my ears its definition and breadth-of-life are significantly inferior to same via good, conventional solid-state tuners such as the Mitsubishi DA-F20. Your mileage may vary. Also, IMHO, the XDR-F1HD's soft-mute errs significantly too far on the side of HF rolloff for the sake of noise reduction as a function of low signal strength. Even for strong signals, the XDR-F1HD's de-emphasis errors are too great for my ears. And for weaker signals, the de-emphasis errors are a show-stopper to me. Too bad the XDR-F1HD doesn't include the option to disable soft-mute. As-is, the tuner's low-noise on weak signals is partly 'fake' SNR by my criteria because it's accomplished by severely rolling-off the upper mids and highs."

Our contributor Pete says, "My unit was a brick as far as performance. There had to be something grossly out of alignment, or perhaps the FM front end suffered some electrostatic damage, either through handling or during manufacture. To make matters worse, the Sony tuner seemed to have a very soft limiting curve. It sounds like it was poor implementation of the Philips chipset in this Sony tuner. The AM performance, however, was very good. It is actually suitable for MW DXing when used with a tunable passive loop antenna such as the Terk AM loop. I've got 18 other communications receivers that already do a better job at that, so I couldn't justify keeping this unit around." And our contributor Ken W. adds, "The muting curve on the XDR-F1HD is from their implementation of the post-demodulation signal processing. Some people seem to like it, but for my weak signals I find it annoying. Recently I measured the noise figures of the front ends on the XDR-F1HD, Sangean HDT-1, Denon TU-1500RD, and Kenwood KT-7500. The XDR-F1HD's was 8 dB, HDT-1 was 7 dB, TU-1500RD was 4 dB, and KT-7500 was slightly less than 3 dB. You can guess which tuner is used for weak signal reception here. However, I do routinely use the Sony for listening to tough signals adjacent to any of the local stations." But our contributor Dave O. points out that Ken is "getting dramatically different measurements from what Brian [Beezley], other engineers (even in Europe), others here [in the FMtuners group], and myself are getting from our Sony tuners. I don't have many strong signals around me, and I get similar measurements to Brian's, and fabulous DX results from the Sony. I have four of them in my home BTW, and the DX performance is similar on all of them."

Our contributor Nick tells us how the XDR-F1HD fares in the UK, where stations can be heard 100 kHz away from strong locals: "It is a HOT DX machine! Is it better than the Onkyo T-4970? Yes it is - the DSP filters are razor-sharp and totally symmetrical, unlike the DYNAS asymmetrical response from the Onkyo. I've still not had the time to do a really thorough tune around, but I'm already hearing things on the Sony that were either impossible or very unlikely on the Onkyo. As for the audio quality, the sound is very clear and 'bright' and the tuner produces noise-free stereo on stations that before had some hiss. However, compared to the Onkyo the audio seems to lack 'authority' and the Onkyo just sounds more 'natural.'"

Our contributor Chuck speculates on the marketing strategy behind the XDR-F1HD's design: "The RF section of the tuner is extremely sensitive, allowing it to pull in many more stations with only a poor antenna, so you have the illusion that you have the same selection of channels on FM that you have now on satellite. Some folks called the Sony tuner's great DXing ability a fluke, but it seems to me that high sensitivity was the plan all along. It also has an overabundance of digital processing in its front end, so FM noise is lowered, but everything sounds like an MP3, just like satellite and internet radio. What common listener will be able to tell the difference? It's interesting that the analog reception is processed digitally in this tuner, possibly to match the noise level of the HD signal. This is probably important for fringe reception where the HD sidebands are not always receivable, and blending of the two is required. But, an important side effect is that even astute listeners now can't tell how 'digital' HD radio sounds, since there's no way to compare directly when listening to a strong local station. No wonder there is no way to defeat the IBOC detector or the adaptive noise reduction. I think this is the likely strategy of terrestrial broadcasters, and why industry conglomerates are so hot on HD radio. They don't care about the audio quality issues, since clearly the majority of the consumer market does not care. They simply want to provide more ways to broadcast ads, and they recognize that satellite radio and the internet are taking their listeners."

Our contributor Scott needed a more sensitive tuner than his Naim NAT 05, so he bought an XDR-F1HD from our panelist Eric. Scott reports: "The Sony is simply an outstanding tuner (all comments on analog FM only). The Naim was great until KDFC 90.3 classical moved their transmitter. The Sony pulls in the signal and plays it in full stereo amazingly. The NAT 05 is the best tuner I have ever heard, still, but one must have a good signal. With a good signal it sounds better than the Sony, no doubt. However the little Sony is so great I purchased another one as a backup!" And our contributor Ray D. did a sort of shootout between the XDR-F1HD and some analog tuners, including a Mitsubishi DA-F30, which you can read about in our writeup for the latter tuner.

After Sony discontinued it, eBay sale prices for the XDR-F1HD shot up and since early 2013 seem to have stabilized in a typical range of $180-325 for unmodded units, or $450-600 or higher for upgraded ones. We've seen frequent lows around $150 and a high of $544 for an unmodded piece, but don't overpay -- this is an extremely common tuner!
So XDR-F1HD is a great tuner reception wise, but has an overheating issue? Too bad it doesn't have preset buttons. I'd hate to pay more for a 17 year old tuner than it sold new unless it was bulletproof and everything I wanted :) .
 
So XDR-F1HD is a great tuner reception wise, but has an overheating issue? Too bad it doesn't have preset buttons. I'd hate to pay more for a 17 year old tuner than it sold new unless it was bulletproof and everything I wanted :) .
The very same internals are in the XDR-S3HD and that has no issues from overheating, etc.
I've been using one daily for several years (I bought it new in the unopened box about 2 years ago, so I paid a premium). The SONY factory made sure that it ran cool, no modifications needed. The controls are on the top. From there you can spin the knob for the channel you want.

Old advertising copy from Crutchfield:​

Sony XDR-S3HD​

Ralph Graves

by Crutchfield's Ralph Graves

Enjoy the clean, digital sound of HD Radio as well as STANDARD (EJ3 CAPS MINE) AM and FM broadcasts with the Sony XDR-S3HD. This handsome tabletop radio receives the new, free digital programming many stations now transmit along with their regular AM and FM signals. HD Radio signals offer a significant improvement in sound quality — FM can approach CD-quality sound, while AM nears current FM sound fidelity. And the 'S3HD lets you access the additional digital channels some stations broadcast — channels you can only receive with an HD Radio tuner.
The XDR-S3HD comes with 40 presets so you can quickly jump to your favorite AM and FM stations. The built-in stereo speaker system features two full-range drivers in a ported enclosure for warm rich sound.
The remote control gives you direct access to channels.

Product highlights:​

  • stereo AM/FM clock radio
  • HD Radio tuner with FM multi-casting reception
  • 40 station presets (20 FM, 20 AM)
  • large LCD display with adjustable brightness
  • 2.8 watts x 2 channels
  • two 2-5/8" full-range drivers in a ported enclosure
  • external AM and FM antennas
  • remote control
  • 11-7/8"W x 5-1/2"H x 7-3/8"

What's in the box:​

Sony XDR-S3HD owner's manual
  • AM/FM/HD digital radio
  • Wireless remote (RMT-CS3A)
  • AM loop antenna
  • FM wire antenna
  • FM dipole antenna
  • 20" Stereo mini cable
  • Operating instructions
  • Sign assembly instructions (for retail display)
 
The very same internals are in the XDR-S3HD and that has no issues from overheating, etc.
I've been using one daily for several years (I bought it new in the unopened box about 2 years ago, so I paid a premium). The SONY factory made sure that it ran cool, no modifications needed. The controls are on the top. From there you can spin the knob for the channel you want.


by Crutchfield's Ralph Graves

Enjoy the clean, digital sound of HD Radio as well as STANDARD (EJ3 CAPS MINE) AM and FM broadcasts with the Sony XDR-S3HD. This handsome tabletop radio receives the new, free digital programming many stations now transmit along with their regular AM and FM signals. HD Radio signals offer a significant improvement in sound quality — FM can approach CD-quality sound, while AM nears current FM sound fidelity. And the 'S3HD lets you access the additional digital channels some stations broadcast — channels you can only receive with an HD Radio tuner.
The XDR-S3HD comes with 40 presets so you can quickly jump to your favorite AM and FM stations. The built-in stereo speaker system features two full-range drivers in a ported enclosure for warm rich sound.
The remote control gives you direct access to channels.

Product highlights:​

  • stereo AM/FM clock radio
  • HD Radio tuner with FM multi-casting reception
  • 40 station presets (20 FM, 20 AM)
  • large LCD display with adjustable brightness
  • 2.8 watts x 2 channels
  • two 2-5/8" full-range drivers in a ported enclosure
  • external AM and FM antennas
  • remote control
  • 11-7/8"W x 5-1/2"H x 7-3/8"

What's in the box:​

Sony XDR-S3HD owner's manual
  • AM/FM/HD digital radio
  • Wireless remote (RMT-CS3A)
  • AM loop antenna
  • FM wire antenna
  • FM dipole antenna
  • 20" Stereo mini cable
  • Operating instructions
  • Sign assembly instructions (for retail display)
Yeah but Sony XDR-S3HD is a table top radio and I don't see any line outs. I'd only be interested in a component tuner to connect to my receiver or another hifi receiver that would have audio performance equal or better than my current Sony receiver https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/res/manuals/W001/W0010546M.pdf plus with better tuner to power my JBL speakers and subwoofer.
 
If nothing else, the headphone output on the Sony could be used to feed a line level input (it's crossed my mind, more than once, to pick up one of the "standalone radio" HD Sonys.
On paper, there's probably some impedance mismatch (output level, of course, is adjustable); in practice, it "usually" (ahem, often) works just fine. I've done it, e.g., with those little round portable CD players that were all the rage... umm... longer ago than I am willing to admit to myself. ;)
 
Does anyone else think FM sounds better than free digital streaming music with its below 160 kbps bit rate and even some paid sources like SiriusXM? I wish often times for a little higher fidelity than FM, but I don't believe I can get that with streaming without paying for a high than the free bit rate (not to mention procuring a networking receiver or a streamer). Maybe I shouldn't make that conclusion because I still don't have wifi streaming to my Hifi, but every time I listen to system using free streaming music I think the FM sounds better.

FM is free, you don't even need internet and a streamer and DAC. IMO FM tuning just works better for the user than streaming with its simplicity and quick access. When I'm listen to music I don't want to fiddle with my phone and apps. And most of the time, I like having a DJ curated playlist that just keeps the music rolling. I'm sure there are many free curated streaming music sources, but a lot of them aren't, I feel that FM broadcasting's potential especially digital was sort of neglected in the move toward streaming. Anyway, I'm interested in anyone's view on FM and even ones that might convince me digital music streaming is a better choice (it took me a long time to finally switch from traditional cable tv to streaming but I did it, so there's always hope I can do similar with audio lol).
I would say that FM "can" sound great but achieving it is not deterministic. That is, it may be quite finicky and it can change. My dad had a remote operated rotating antenna mast. But the content was free.
Obtaining quality digital content is (mostly) deterministic thou it may cost you a modest fee.

It depends more on what is important to you.
Myself? I could give up on many 'luxuries' if need be. A quality streaming service would be one of the last ones on that list.
 
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In past looked forward to some NPR programming, but nowadays the breaks for sponsor ads are so relentless it’s unbearable. Miss Science Friday, BBC programming among some others. Original Logitech Squeezebox was a revelation in radio listening. All those wonderful worldwide radio feeds from a small device with very clear sound quality.
 
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I would say that FM "can" sound great but achieving it is not deterministic. That is, it may be quite finicky and it can change. My dad had a remote operated rotating antenna mast. But the content was free.
Obtaining quality digital content is (mostly) deterministic thou it may cost you a modest fee.

It depends more on what is important to you.
Myself? I could give up on many 'luxuries' if need be. A quality streaming service would be one of the last ones on that list.
Getting a good analog radio broadcast and reception seems to be pretty complicated especially nowadays with so much more interference, HD Radio noise etc. It probably would've been better had they went like with TV to full digital broadcast at full power and bandwidth with actually FM analog sound quality or better-at least 256Kbps minimum or higher on the main channel.

When the signal is good I think FM can sound better than a lot of lower bit streaming. I agree getting a clean signal is not certain. For me it's a lot about convenience and ease of use and how it operates that appeals to me over streaming. Even though I have internet I still find it appealing with FM that I can play decent quality audio without internet, a music subscription and a cell phone or TV app. I have SiriusXM streaming that has a pretty good app and sound quality and I might start streaming. I'm just being stubborn and old school :).
 
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If nothing else, the headphone output on the Sony could be used to feed a line level input (it's crossed my mind, more than once, to pick up one of the "standalone radio" HD Sonys.
On paper, there's probably some impedance mismatch (output level, of course, is adjustable); in practice, it "usually" (ahem, often) works just fine. I've done it, e.g., with those little round portable CD players that were all the rage... umm... longer ago than I am willing to admit to myself. ;)
3.5 MM port on the back cable to stereo RCA did the trick on mine.
I'll keep that Sony radio and headphone connection in mind. I seem to be getting pretty good reception with the rabbit ears and my Sony receiver so far.
 
I'll keep that Sony radio and headphone connection in mind. I seem to be getting pretty good reception with the rabbit ears and my Sony receiver so far.
It works as good as any RCA does, IMHO. Naturally some will say that they can hear a difference (and maybe they can).
I have checked with other gear that has both RCA out & headphone out.
On the gear that I have, I can't and that's what counts for me.
 
It works as good as any RCA does, IMHO. Naturally some will say that they can hear a difference (and maybe they can).
I have checked with other gear that has both RCA out & headphone out.
On the gear that I have, I can't and that's what counts for me.
I'm not sure but It would make sense that the headphone jack would be exactly the same as any of the other preamp RCA out only a different connector.
 
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I'm not sure but It would make sense that the headphone jack would be exactly the same as any of the other preamp RCA out only a different connector.
They're designed for different load impedances (and different sensitivity/voltage). Depending on the load, it can make little difference or quite a bit of difference. Often, (indeed, typically), driving a line-level input from a headphone output is workable.
 
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