Digital Volume Infinite Encoders slow and need many rotations. Why is that?

[MAB]

Hi there.
I know by now that the Flex has a 20 step encoder. Its no wonder resolution is low.
To the „safety“ measures i literally and honestly never had issues or broke sweat over volume regulation until digital came.
I also have never damaged a speaker in my life cause i messed up the volume or something. To be honest i feel like taking crazy pills having to
discuss (not with you , talking in general) that i simply want a Volume control that behaves like any analog amplifier or Preamplifier and people explain to me
that it is a weird thing.
I am not here trying to convince others. As i said to another member , i ordered an Spl 2 Volume and decided that compared to the current state of the volume on the Flex
i could not care less about loosing 3% quality cause of going through obsolete (for some) analog hardware.
There are many things Digital does better but this volume implementation is not there yet and maybe never will cause i seem to be the only one
wishing it was different.
So i gave up . No biggie Thats why i don`t check in that frequently here anymore.
Also i am only speaking for my self. Not saying others are wrong.

That said, have a nice evening and thanks for tuning in.

It's a fair request. I think the state of volume controls could improve. Error trapping and good user interface (like asymmetric velocity sensitivity, muting or gain reduction while input-selecting, etc.) are important, even if you (and I) haven't destroyed any downstream gear due to these common foibles. Many are very risky, and not well error trapped, and have a poor remote control to make things worse. A finer encoder would make this seven more important safeguard against fumble fingers. I had a high-dollar Sonic Frontiers preamp that had a great encoder/volume control, including the feel. I like the volume control on my Apt Holman even better. So I get it. Perhaps the focus on desktop systems with DAC as the preamp have made these encoders commonplace and more suited to driving headphones, or whatever...

It's not a weird thing. I think you are not the only one. I believe cost may get in the way just a bit, but have to think a decent volume is doable... (perhaps with configurable response, like mute or decrease on input-switch, asymmetric velocity sensitivity, error trap to zero gain in case of power interrupt, etc.)

 

[DrSpan]

No,no joke at all,it's a log one,imagine that it's unity is at about 2'o clock.
It's part of a pre that can output about 10V,is big,heavy,smooth and motorized.

I think it's a "blue velvet" one?

But people do think analog pot like I said above,probably thinking about the cheap,scratchy ones.

All good my friend.
Its a vast place this internet. Easy to sometimes not understand when everything is based on short text passages.

10v? Sounds like Pro-Studio equipment? What Preamp are you talking about? It got me curious now

 

[DrSpan]

It's a fair request. I think the state of volume controls could improve. Error trapping and good user interface (like asymmetric velocity sensitivity, muting or gain reduction while input-selecting, etc.) are important, even if you (and I) haven't destroyed any downstream gear due to these common foibles. Many are very risky, and not well error trapped, and have a poor remote control to make things worse. A finer encoder would make this seven more important safeguard against fumble fingers. I had a high-dollar Sonic Frontiers preamp that had a great encoder/volume control, including the feel. I like the volume control on my Apt Holman even better. So I get it. Perhaps the focus on desktop systems with DAC as the preamp have made these encoders commonplace and more suited to driving headphones, or whatever...

It's not a weird thing. I think you are not the only one. I believe cost may get in the way just a bit, but have to think a decent volume is doable... (perhaps with configurable response, like mute or decrease on input-switch, asymmetric velocity sensitivity, error trap to zero gain in case of power interrupt, etc.)

I hear you.
Yes i agree. Also i am aware that you can`t have everyone happy at the same time. I think it is very difficult and in most cases even impossible
for someone to understand how helpful a good volume control is in Mixing if they are not involved in something similar. On the other hand i also understand that doing everything from a couch using a remote is very comfortable and easy.
Let`s see what comes next.

 

[Sokel]

All good my friend.
Its a vast place this internet. Easy to sometimes not understand when everything is based on short text passages.

10v? Sounds like Pro-Studio equipment? What Preamp are you talking about? It got me curious now

No,no pro,just an old pre,about 40 Ohm output resistance,lots of I/O,sadly no tone controls.
Generous output of course so can drive any power amp I want.