Cheapest wireless USB

[op299]

Hi!

I might be slow, but what is the cheapest way to wirelessly transmit my computers USB signal to a dac? Or via ethernet, since I could place a router near the dac?

I know there are dedicated audio products like Zen Stream och Project stream box, but there must be cheaper/simpler ways?

The goal is to stream DSD from computer

best regards

 

[JayGilb]

What is the distance between the computer and the dac ?

 

[op299]

About 10 meter, semi-different rooms though

 

[staticV3]

what is the cheapest way to wirelessly transmit my computers USB signal to a dac?

This probably:


You will need a DAC with Toslink or Coax input.

 

[op299]

But it seems that the cheapest option is ROCK PI S ? Should be able to stream from the stationary computer?

On a second note, is there any TV - box with usb out that also would be able to stream from computer?

I saw that Nvidia Shield TV Pro has USB out, but unsure if you can stream from different computer.

 

[op299]

To clarify: I want to stream via USB (and send DSD files), not via toslink or spdif

 

[JayGilb]

Maybe a bluetooth transmitter/receiver pair powered by usb ?

 

[op299]

Maybe a bluetooth transmitter/receiver pair powered by usb ?

Will that be able to stream DSD, i got the impression it 24/192 at most?

 

[JayGilb]

What gear do you have ? PC/Mac and dac model.

 

[op299]

What gear do you have ? PC/Mac and dac model.

Windows 11, "dac" will be sabaj A30a. The idea is to stream from HQplayer.

 

[op299]

If anyone has experience with Rock Pi S that would be interesting to hear as well.

 

[staticV3]

@op299 It's possible to send both native DSD and DoP over your local network ("DoPE") using DLNA/UPnP. Here are some relevant links:

Struggling with DSD & DLNA

First time poster.... I'm struggling to use my PC as a DLNA controller to play high-res audio files over LAN to either my Oppo 103 or Marantz 7010. I don't have a standalone DAC, so the USB route isn't in the cards. I had a modicum of success with Foobar and the Oppo a while back, but now I think...

audiophilestyle.com

Native DSD over a Network - not DoPE

Native DSD over a Network - not DoPE

yabb.jriver.com

If you want to do that on the cheap, then you'll need some SBC running something like Volumino.

 

[Killingbeans]

i got the impression it 24/192 at most?

144dB dynamic range and 96kHz frequency extension. Why do you need more?

 

[op299]

@op299 It's possible to send both native DSD and DoP over your local network using DLNA/UPnP. Here are some relevant links:

Struggling with DSD & DLNA

First time poster.... I'm struggling to use my PC as a DLNA controller to play high-res audio files over LAN to either my Oppo 103 or Marantz 7010. I don't have a standalone DAC, so the USB route isn't in the cards. I had a modicum of success with Foobar and the Oppo a while back, but now I think...

audiophilestyle.com

Native DSD over a Network - not DoPE

Native DSD over a Network - not DoPE

yabb.jriver.com

If you want to do that on the cheap, then you'll need some SBC running something like Volumino.

An SBC would be a Rasberry Pie like device, like the Rock Pi S?

 

[op299]

144dB dynamic range and 96kHz frequency extension. Why do you need more?

To stream DSD files. I find that DSD sounds better, is it considered placebo on this forum? (just curious)

 

[JayGilb]

Your dac supports aptX-HD, find a matching bluetooth transmitter.

 

[staticV3]

It's irrational for sure.
OP could convert the DSD files to PCM 24/48 and stream those to the DAC and none of the DSD "magic" would be lost and it would sound exactly the same.

But as DSD via the network is possible (albeit more cumbersome to setup), OP can totally pursue this.

 

[staticV3]

I find that DSD sounds better, is it considered placebo on this forum? (just curious)

Confirmation bias/expectation bias, to be clear.

 

[op299]

Confirmation bias/expectation bias, to be clear

Yes if DSD isn't better that solves the problem.

But I got the impression that the upsampling ability of HQplayer was appreciated on this forum as well? Is the consensus that Hqplayer is pointless?

 

[Killingbeans]

To stream DSD files. I find that DSD sounds better, is it considered placebo on this forum? (just curious)

DSD is bit of a can of worms.

Personally I don't think it does anything that makes it technically better. The fact that it has the word "direct" in the name does however make it easy to get the imagination going.

Bit depth and sample rate on the other hand... 24bit/192kHz is nice to have if you are doing editing or need the headroom for other things like DSP, but for normal audio playback 16bit/44.1kHz will be close enough to perfection to make anything else a moot point. The only exception I can think of is if you're using a DAC with a crummy reconstuction filter that needs the higher bitrates as a disability aid, but in that case you'd be much better off just selling that silly thing and getting a real DAC.