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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?

MattHooper said:
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Do Vinyl Records Actually Sound Better Than CDs? We Take A Closer Look - SlashGear

Whether you prefer collecting vinyl or collecting CDs, the narrative has always been that vinyl sounds better. How true is this? SlashGear investigates.
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This article has convinced me to dump my records!
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MattHooper said:
The Truth Is Out There…

www.slashgear.com

Do Vinyl Records Actually Sound Better Than CDs? We Take A Closer Look - SlashGear

Whether you prefer collecting vinyl or collecting CDs, the narrative has always been that vinyl sounds better. How true is this? SlashGear investigates.
www.slashgear.com www.slashgear.com

This article has convinced me to dump my records!
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About time!

There are so many things wrong with this article, so many "facts" that are wrong. The first one I noticed is that the first digital audio recording was from Denon in 1972, not "way back in 1976", and digital recording wasn't commonplace until the early 1980s. This jist of the article is more or less correct, but it's that details that drive me crazy.
 
MattHooper said:
The Truth Is Out There…

www.slashgear.com

Do Vinyl Records Actually Sound Better Than CDs? We Take A Closer Look - SlashGear

Whether you prefer collecting vinyl or collecting CDs, the narrative has always been that vinyl sounds better. How true is this? SlashGear investigates.
www.slashgear.com www.slashgear.com

This article has convinced me to dump my records!
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So we read this:

This doesn't mean it's impossible to procure an untainted analog vinyl record, or its original analog master. In some rare cases, analog tapes exist of a song recorded in the pre-digital age. Also, a small minority of modern musicians choose to make some (or all) of their recordings on analog tapes, too. Even then, there's still a strong chance digital was used at some point in the pipeline before a song was cut to lacquer — such as mastering it in a DAW — which arguably sullies that analog purity.
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"Untainted analog vinyl", "analog purity"? Only in the author's imagination, of course.
 
I’ve pointed out earlier that I’ve observed that the people most baffled by the vinyl revival are those old guys who grew up with vinyl.

“ Wait, people are buying records again? I grew up with the limitations of records, and we rejoiced when we could move on to clean or better sound from CDs and then to the convenience of streaming! Why would anybody want to go back to an antiquated format again and all that hassle and worst quality? Make any sense.”

One thing to realize Is that the very fact many vinyl newbies hadn’t experienced the record era means it is new for them. it’s not some old hat been there done that experience like it is for the older vinyl grumps.:)

And in having this new experience, they are discovering some elements of value that they had not experienced from digital streaming.

They more than anyone know what it’s like to grow up in the digital world of music, and in a sense they more than anyone are well-positioned To have a fresh take on vinyl records and note the experiential and aesthetic value it can have, that they had not experienced with streaming.

Here’s a very typical thread from the Reddit vinyl forum, of somebody discovering vinyl playback:

Just got my first vinyl and it's a whole new experience.​


 
MattHooper said:
I’ve pointed out earlier that I’ve observed that the people most baffled by the vinyl revival are those old guys who grew up with vinyl.

“ Wait, people are buying records again? I grew up with the limitations of records, and we rejoiced when we could move on to clean or better sound from CDs and then to the convenience of streaming! Why would anybody want to go back to an antiquated format again and all that hassle and worst quality? Make any sense.”

One thing to realize Is that the very fact many vinyl newbies hadn’t experienced the record era means it is new for them. it’s not some old hat been there done that experience like it is for the older vinyl grumps.:)

And in having this new experience, they are discovering some elements of value that they had not experienced from digital streaming.

They more than anyone know what it’s like to grow up in the digital world of music, and in a sense they more than anyone are well-positioned To have a fresh take on vinyl records and note the experiential and aesthetic value it can have, that they had not experienced with streaming.

Here’s a very typical thread from the Reddit vinyl forum, of somebody discovering vinyl playback:

Just got my first vinyl and it's a whole new experience.​


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I'm a zillenial that got gifted a SL1200mk2 from my uncle during my teens and I can confirm that the hassle came as novelty and something to be excited for, rather than just a nuisance. I also can relate to the top rated comment:

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Leiker535 said:
I'm a zillenial that got gifted a SL1200mk2 from my uncle during my teens and I can confirm that the hassle came as novelty and something to be excited for, rather than just a nuisance. I also can relate to the top rated comment:

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More expensive. Less convenient. Worse sound quality. What's not to like?
 
Brian Hall said:
Atmos is great for movies.
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So is a video screen!

Neither really have anything to do with the vinyl renaissance, I don't think.

Unless the added expense, inconvenience, and cost of ATMOS gadgetry drives people to vinyl?

;)
 
You gotta be a rabid vinyl fan to scan the internet for all vinyl related data, old and new, like Matt does. Real-time scanning, and posting things here within the hour of their appearance online. That's a full-time obsession. Obsession is also not the kind of mindset that leads to balanced POVs. As we have seen in this thread alone, in 400 generally-extended posts and probably only getting warmed up.

So, today it's "Oh look everyone, somebody just bought their first record player and here's what they said online about it!! Allow me to generalise!"

Oh. Seriously. Like we didn't already know that the sales revival is driven by innocent babes who know nothing about vinyl except it's cool and hip, and they feel every bit as cool and hip listening to a record as a Kardashian fan bathing in some bath oil that KK promoted. "Best bath oil evva! 5 clicks out of 5!"

Cue extended monological re-debate from Matt about the inappropriateness of the use of the word 'hip' and the implied labelling of the hip-ee with that label-that-must-not-be-used-even-though-it-accurately-describes-one-who-seeks-to-be-hip.

Or something else. Whatever.
 
Newman said:
You gotta be a rabid vinyl fan to scan the internet for all vinyl related data, old and new, like Matt does. Real-time scanning, and posting things here within the hour of their appearance online. That's a full-time obsession. Obsession is also not the kind of mindset that leads to balanced POVs. As we have seen in this thread alone, in 400 generally-extended posts and probably only getting warmed up.

So, today it's "Oh look everyone, somebody just bought their first record player and here's what they said online about it!! Allow me to generalise!"

Oh. Seriously. Like we didn't already know that the sales revival is driven by innocent babes who know nothing about vinyl except it's cool and hip, and they feel every bit as cool and hip listening to a record as a Kardashian fan bathing in some bath oil that KK promoted. "Best bath oil evva! 5 clicks out of 5!"

Cue extended monological re-debate from Matt about the inappropriateness of the use of the word 'hip' and the implied labelling of the hip-ee with that label-that-must-not-be-used-even-though-it-accurately-describes-one-who-seeks-to-be-hip.

Or something else. Whatever.
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Obsession, like someone trolling a vinyl thread as an anti-vinyl harpy who appears almost as often as the guy he's criticizing? Thank you for the great example of projection.

Good one!

:D
 
Newman said:
You gotta be a rabid vinyl fan to scan the internet for all vinyl related data, old and new, like Matt does. Real-time scanning, and posting things here within the hour of their appearance online. That's a full-time obsession. Obsession is also not the kind of mindset that leads to balanced POVs. As we have seen in this thread alone, in 400 generally-extended posts and probably only getting warmed up.

So, today it's "Oh look everyone, somebody just bought their first record player and here's what they said online about it!! Allow me to generalise!"

Oh. Seriously. Like we didn't already know that the sales revival is driven by innocent babes who know nothing about vinyl except it's cool and hip, and they feel every bit as cool and hip listening to a record as a Kardashian fan bathing in some bath oil that KK promoted. "Best bath oil evva! 5 clicks out of 5!"

Cue extended monological re-debate from Matt about the inappropriateness of the use of the word 'hip' and the implied labelling of the hip-ee with that label-that-must-not-be-used-even-though-it-accurately-describes-one-who-seeks-to-be-hip.

Or something else. Whatever.
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Obsessed like someone who cannot restrain themselves from making negative comments the moment this thread pops up again? And who has taken his negativity to the point of putting anti-vinyl comments in his own signature line?


It takes some heroic effort on your part, after almost 400 pages, to still misunderstand or mischaracterize peoples reasons for enjoying records. The person in that Reddit thread just told you their reasons for posting why they enjoyed playing the record - a variety of different aspects that he found made it a compelling experience. But your inclination is to treat them like a know nothing dumbass, condescendingly implying they have no more depth of thought than someone buying Kardashian bath salts.

Why do you feel the need to do that? Did a vinyl record steal your bike when you were a child or something? ;-)
 
MattHooper said:
Obsessed like someone who cannot restrain themselves from making negative comments the moment this thread pops up again? And who has taken his negativity to the point of putting anti-vinyl comments in his own signature line?

It takes some heroic effort on your part, after almost 400 pages, to still misunderstand or mischaracterize peoples reasons for enjoying records. The person in that Reddit thread just told you their reasons for posting why they enjoyed playing the record - a variety of different aspects that he found made it a compelling experience. But your inclination is to treat them like a know nothing dumbass, condescendingly implying they have no more depth of thought than someone buying Kardashian bath salts.

Why do you feel the need to do that? Did a vinyl record steal your bike when you were a child or something? ;-)
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