I am confused—is this merely a rebranded Lyngdorf BW-2 or are you commenting that the two subwoofers look aesthetically similar, but are not the same hardware?
I think the subwoofer bandwagon must be one of the seats on a merry-go-round because it's been in motion for 20 years+ by now.
Totally different subs. Different amp, different driver, but similar sized box.
www.grimanisystems.com
Here is the Ascendo ”Mule”. It was talked about during a Shane Lee video with Ascendo (50hz to 150hz at 125db).The Dali looks cool - though not sure if it's a full-on Purifi motor or just the distinctive surround. Still, I haven't seen an in-room version.
As for Ascendo, do you mean this one:
SMSG10 a shallow compact subwoofer that packs a punch
The SMSG10 is a powerful 10" subwoofer with a very shallow 4" deep enclosure. It contains a powerful amplifier and a DSP for room correction.www.aia-cinema.com
It's probably a good sub. The woofer it uses* is very well optimized for tiny cabinets, with a big voicecoil to deal with the inevitable heat and a neo magnet for good motor force in a small package. It's also an expensive driver.
Grimani also has one in this form factor.
No idea about price, finish options, or drive-unit (I know what it looks like from the frame/cone but that could be incorrect).Epsilon Subwoofer
Active Amplified DSP SubwooferHigh DynamicsExtended Bass Response Flush or Surface Mount High performance Exceptional Dynamics and Finesse Active Amplified / Integrated Digital Signal Processing / Room EQ Basic Specifications: 10” woofer / 89dB efficiency (2.83V)30Hz to 200Hz / 300W rack...
And Sigberg, obviously.
*Other CI companies, such as Triad and Leon Speakers, also use this woofer in their slim form factor subs. So does Amphion in the pro space. Maybe "Ascendo" asks the Indonesians to add a sticker on the back bearing an Ascendo model number to "customize" it...I can confirm from personal measurement that Leon and Triad both use the same part you can buy from, e.g. Madisound.
Here is more information about the “mule”The Dali looks cool - though not sure if it's a full-on Purifi motor or just the distinctive surround. Still, I haven't seen an in-room version.
As for Ascendo, do you mean this one:
SMSG10 a shallow compact subwoofer that packs a punch
The SMSG10 is a powerful 10" subwoofer with a very shallow 4" deep enclosure. It contains a powerful amplifier and a DSP for room correction.
It's probably a good sub. The woofer it uses* is very well optimized for tiny cabinets, with a big voicecoil to deal with the inevitable heat and a neo magnet for good motor force in a small package. It's also an expensive driver.
Grimani also has one in this form factor.
No idea about price, finish options, or drive-unit (I know what it looks like from the frame/cone but that could be incorrect).Epsilon Subwoofer
Active Amplified DSP SubwooferHigh DynamicsExtended Bass Response Flush or Surface Mount High performance Exceptional Dynamics and Finesse Active Amplified / Integrated Digital Signal Processing / Room EQ Basic Specifications: 10” woofer / 89dB efficiency (2.83V)30Hz to 200Hz / 300W rack...
And Sigberg, obviously.
*Other CI companies, such as Triad and Leon Speakers, also use this woofer in their slim form factor subs. So does Amphion in the pro space. Maybe "Ascendo" asks the Indonesians to add a sticker on the back bearing an Ascendo model number to "customize" it...I can confirm from personal measurement that Leon and Triad both use the same part you can buy from, e.g. Madisound.
The hard thing to get is the dsp aspect of it. May require a license.
Can you leave me a link where this specific amp is on offer commercially for end users?
Q factor, SPL and excursion are all related, and the relationship does not change. You change one thing others will change too. DSP change SPL, others will change too.
