Buchardt Audio SUB10

[VintageFlanker]

Buchardt Audio just announced new SUB10, compact (and wireless) subwoofer:

From their newsletter:

Reveal and pre-order option of the much-anticipated SUB10 is finally a reality. For many who follow us, this has been a project we have worked on for over 2 years now. We wanted a subwoofer that would be less intrusive in your typical home but, in typical Buchardt fashion, perform well beyond what users expect from its size. The SUB10 features a very powerful long-stroke 10” woofer that has been designed specifically for this exact enclosure and Hypex amplifier. Getting the woofer just right was the main reason for its long development process. This allows us to output a whopping 95dB at 20hz (is that CEA-2010?), which goes way beyond our competition in the compact sub market.

But there's more! This subwoofer also carries WiSA for wireless use with our active speakers, as well as your standard wired connections for passive systems. It has Bluetooth for app-controlled DSP functions like Room Correction, Manual EQ, variable LLE slider, and more.

The only 16-centimeter / 6.3” slim design is ideal for near-wall placement both on its side, standing up, and even lying on its back if you have special application needs, like placing it under your couch.

It comes in Black and White at 1300 EUR. We are offering a pre-order discount with expected shipping in June 2024.
Stay tuned to our website for upcoming details, as we have much more information coming your way!

Edit : Now officially listed:

SUB10

Our new Subwoofer with WiSA for wireless use with our active speakers, as well as your standard wired connections for passive systems. It has Bluetooth for app-controlled DSP functions like Room Correction, Manual EQ, variable LLE slider, and more.

buchardtaudio.com

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS	-
Amplifier	Hypex 400 Watt RMS / 1200 Watt peak Class-D
DSP settings	App controlled settings for Room correction and more
Woofer	10" Custom long stroke woofer.
Analog inputs	2 x XLR & RCA
Satellite outputs	2 x XLR & RCA
Digital inputs	WiSA 24 bit / 96khz. Can be paired across brands on Dolby and DTS
Variable Phase and Level	Yes, including variable distance setting for delay via app
Variable Low Pass Filter	40-150hz or Flat to 1000hz
Frequency response	20-300hz +/- 1dB
Cabinet	19mm / 0.74" MDF with reinforced woofer mounting
Measurements (h x w x d)	490 x 320 x 160 mm
Input voltage	100-240 Volts AC auto adjusting (EU, US, UK power cords incl.)
Weight	14 kg
Warranty	5 years on woofer and cabinet 2 years on amp module
Accessories	Front grille, feets, 90 degree angled powercord

 

[3125b]

(is that CEA-2010?

Maybe, although Burchardt don't seem too bothered by distortion usually.
The Neumann KH750 manages 93dB @20Hz (CEA 2010-B), this will be similar.

 

[Deleted member 48726]

I can't take this "pre-order" thing serious. It's a cash grab trick.

Also it's a seriously hefty price for a tiny sub. But let's see how it performs when it ships.

 

[VintageFlanker]

Also it's a seriously hefty price for a tiny sub

Beg to differ. The competition is mostly priced about the same.

I can't take this "pre-order" thing serious. It's a cash grab trick.

How so ?

The Neumann KH750 manages 93dB @20Hz (CEA 2010-B), this will be similar

Except the KH750 is a much bigger box. That's why this claim raises some doubts, AFAIC.

 

[BeeKay]

Looks great. For a washing machine.

 

[Chester]

You’re a hard lot to please

I don’t need one but am impressed that they’re actually considering how to make these things more suitable for a multi use living room. It’s about time.

 

[BeeKay]

Not my piece of cake. Distortion probably will be a compromise to make. Looks is on the "where to hide" side. But that’s just me. Integration into the Buchardt ecosystem seems perfect from what one can read.

With regard to pre-order Buchardt are spotless. They will deliver if they say so.

 

[Jeromeof]

I do think if they could ship subwoofers economically from China this is one area in Audio where we could use some "disruption from Chinese manufacturers" (as especially in Europe) there doesn't seem to be any decent subwoofer for less than €800.

 

[Vacceo]

I am very curious about its infrasonic performance.

 

[changer]

I would love to buy the Hypex module...

 

[Deleted member 48726]

Beg to differ. The competition is mostly priced about the same.

How so ?


Except the KH750 is a much bigger box. That's why this claim raises some doubts, AFAIC.

That depends heavily on what you define as competition. I'd look at SVS..

IR to pre-order. Why would you give away money before you even know what the product is like? Just why?
Originally pre-order was a mechanic for hard-to-get items or limited runs of goods.

 

[Matias]

Very similar to Sigberg Audio Inkognito subwoofer, using Hypex amps and all.

Subwoofer small INKOGNITO high end premium sealed 10 / 12 inch Sigberg Audio Trinnov Waveforming

A small subwoofer that outperform the bass of high-end floorstanders. Flexible placement, high end bass, made for music, made in norway. Supports on-wall mounting - Perfect as a Trinnov Waveforming Technology subwoofer

www.sigbergaudio.no

 

[sharock]

WiSA connectivty appeals to me for use with the A500.

 

[3125b]

Except the KH750 is a much bigger box.

But it probably has a much more powerful amp.
I can‘t guess the woofers excursion from the picture, but it looks reasonably capable.

Edit: Actually the amp might be 250W as well. Then I guess the KH would have an advantage.

 

[VintageFlanker]

Why would you give away money before you even know what the product is like?

What would you want to know exactly ? Buchardt is a direct sale company, as are Arendal, Sigberg Audio (If I'm not mistaken), Apollon, or boXem... So you will have to pay for something only based on pics and specs, without having the opportunity to try the actual product... By the way, for this SUB10 in particular, pre-orders are not opened yet (nor that the product page is up on their website for that matter)

Very similar to Sigberg Audio Inkognito subwoofer, using Hypex amps and all.

Subwoofer small INKOGNITO high end premium sealed 10 / 12 inch Sigberg Audio Trinnov Waveforming

A small subwoofer that outperform the bass of high-end floorstanders. Flexible placement, high end bass, made for music, made in norway. Supports on-wall mounting - Perfect as a Trinnov Waveforming Technology subwoofer

www.sigbergaudio.no

Yep, I also thought about this one, probably some better performer, but also quite more expensive and not wireless.

 

[Deleted member 48726]

What would you want to know exactly ? Buchardt is a direct sale company, as are Arendal, Sigberg Audio (If I'm not mistaken), Apollon, or boXem... So you will have to pay for something only based on pics and specs, without having the opportunity to try the actual product...

I don't know. -What about a test of said product before I choose to pay.

Your other examples have their products on the market already and most have been tested.

 

[VintageFlanker]

That depends heavily on what you define as competition

Compact subwoofer with small footprint, wireless, and DSP tweakable by app. You hardly buy this kind of subs for good performance/price ratio.

I don't know. -What about a test of said product before I choose to pay

You could also buy anything after it gets tested. So...

Your other examples have their products on the market already and most have been tested.

So does Buchardt for many of their products... Obviously, once these got tested by reviewers. As countless products are available for order without being measured (Yet. And I don't consider subjective reviews as any kind of useful). Not sure I understand your point.

 

[Deleted member 48726]

Compact subwoofer with very small footprint, wireless, and DSP tweakable by app.

You could also buy anything after it gets tested. So...

So does Buchardt for many of their products... Obviously, once these got tested by reviewers. As countless products are available for order without being measured (Yet. And I don't consider subjective reviews as any kind of useful). Not sure I understand your point.

My point is that you pay for something that could turn out to be a bad product. You are going in blind. You have only seen pretty pictures and you decide to buy?
Well. To each their own but I consider it a scammy practice in general.

 

[BeeKay]

but I consider it a scammy practice in general.

In general? Buchardt may have a few flaws but scammers they are certainly not. Do you had bad experiences?
Also, smaller companies don’t have many options to get a high volume production off the ground.

 

[Deleted member 48726]

In general? Buchardt may have a few flaws but scammers they are certainly not. Do you had bad experiences?
Also, smaller companies don’t have many options to get a high volume production off the ground.

I didn't say they were.
Pre-ordering rewards a company whether they make a good product or a bad product. You give them money before they have actually delivered what they promise. If the product is bad they already got the money.