Audiophilia is the mirror of modern times

[KellenVancouver]

The problem with having so much information available is a lot of it is either incorrect or incomplete. It has become a regular occurrence around here when someone wants to disagree with me they will (and I think it's sick) invest time in an internet search to find something that purportedly helps their position. Nearly always the tidbit they find is incomplete (or innacurate) and actually undermines their cause. The problem is they don't know how to interpret the information and in their desperation to win an argument they get it wrong.

Exactly. Retreating into our narrowest interests heightens our vulnerability to misinformation and disinformation. The inevitable result is that "trust" and "truth" become casualties, which of course not only amplifies over time, but can expand into our "real world" lives.

To put this into perspective, whom among us think that ASR is special? If we have that feeling about ASR, is it not due to the trust we place in it due to the truth we feel it provides? Yes, in the final analysis that is an act of faith, yet if that faith in ASR is the case for you (as it is for me), juxtapose that to the rest of the internet.

 

[mhardy6647]

With reference to the thesis of the current thread

I think this thread, posted elsewhere at ASR, is getting to be a pretty good example/reference point.

Rick Beato: The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[Davide]

Exactly. Retreating into our narrowest interests heightens our vulnerability to misinformation and disinformation. The inevitable result is that "trust" and "truth" become casualties, which of course not only amplifies over time, but can expand into our "real world" lives.

To put this into perspective, whom among us think that ASR is special? If we have that feeling about ASR, is it not due to the trust we place in it due to the truth we feel it provides? Yes, in the final analysis that is an act of faith, yet if that faith in ASR is the case for you (as it is for me), juxtapose that to the rest of the internet.

I agree with what you say. The only thing I dare to say is that I don't think it's correct to talk about ASR as a source. In fact it is a means of information like a news program, only very specialized.
But inside there is very disparate information from individuals.
I believe that your conclusion to juxtapose is therefore to be referred to the information herein that derive from a scientific approach. Not necessarily from ASR (because in fact there is also other kind information, more or less valid, or not valid at all).
Having ASR, as a means of information, is what to be satisfied with and grateful for.
It is only a small conceptual clarification, but rather important, IMO.

 

[Ron Texas]

Exactly. Retreating into our narrowest interests heightens our vulnerability to misinformation and disinformation. The inevitable result is that "trust" and "truth" become casualties, which of course not only amplifies over time, but can expand into our "real world" lives.

To put this into perspective, whom among us think that ASR is special? If we have that feeling about ASR, is it not due to the trust we place in it due to the truth we feel it provides? Yes, in the final analysis that is an act of faith, yet if that faith in ASR is the case for you (as it is for me), juxtapose that to the rest of the internet.

ASR is special. It has a lot to do with the outlook of our host and work the mods do to keep things from spinning out of control. The audiophile hobby is unfortunately loaded with misinformation. ASR has established a framework for objectivity by relying on the work of Dr. Toole and laboratory quality tools like the Klippel and AP analyzer.

 

[Basic Channel]

Exactly. Retreating into our narrowest interests heightens our vulnerability to misinformation and disinformation. The inevitable result is that "trust" and "truth" become casualties, which of course not only amplifies over time, but can expand into our "real world" lives.

To put this into perspective, whom among us think that ASR is special? If we have that feeling about ASR, is it not due to the trust we place in it due to the truth we feel it provides? Yes, in the final analysis that is an act of faith, yet if that faith in ASR is the case for you (as it is for me), juxtapose that to the rest of the internet.

I think internet algorithms don't help widen interests, but they are also helpful in some way to find accurate information. I relate to the comments about YouTube being a bombscare, but when I watch it signed in I am more likely to see a scam exposed in a coffeezilla video than any actual crypto scam videos. So we have a bit of a catch 22 situation with the algorithms I think, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I think ASR is special and it is partly due to the truth it provides, but it is also the sense of community. It probably helps that there is a lack of threads like this, getting close to politics.

It's interesting (maybe just to me) that the internet cesspits are places where you can get everything, and algorithms sort it out for you. Yet the good places (not just here) are those with a very narrow interest, and a bunch of people gathered round that.

 

[Yuhasz01]

One can find ASR community very useful and informative IF one comes here to learn and share perspectives on musical sound, audio, hearing and listening. As we all know, many come here for other less constructive and unhelpful motives. Admit it is challenging to filter out the noise from the signal regarding any subject. Generally I find too many solutions offered ,loudly and rude, by people failing to first state and address a clearly defined problem to solve.

 

[CarbonMakerU]

Better than most US propaganda news services. Fox News, what an oxymoron.

Now I'll be the first to admit that unbiased news reporting has been entirely replaced by editorialized agenda driven info-mation, but why single out one network only. ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN records are every bit as abysmal on reporting actual facts. They have all fallen to the level of entertainment TV, spewing out content to the social media obsessed masses, journalism be dammed. Everyone just keep staring at those phones, and leave the thinking/decision making to the overseers.

 

[AdamG]

Thread notice: Absolutely No Political content or Religious content.

On Edit: Where did I leave my manners? I think my Brain just skipped a track.

Please and thank you for your cooperation and support. These two topics are completely verboten for very good reason. That is if you want to have at least one friend left here. I know I do and these topics will loose you friends faster than showing up Friday night ready to “Cruise and Boulevard” and as the gang jumps in you realize that the tank is Empty!!!

 

[Basic Channel]

Thread notice: Absolutely No Political content or Religious content.

There are lots of political(ish) posts left (including some of mine that were not reported or seen) and the whole premise of the thread is somewhat problematic in that regard. Aside from breaking rules (and annoying you) it's also nicer when we get along on our common shared passion. Which is I suppose the point of the rule. It'd be less hassle for everyone if the thread was closed imo.

Apologies for breaking the rules.

 

[Ron Texas]

Elvis has left the building.

 

[Geert]

The most striking example that the world has just experienced concerns the COVID pandemic. You can make an overview of polarizations: Virus fearsome or like a cold. Protective devices everywhere or useless. Safe or dangerous vaccines. Interest of the community or of an elite/lobby.

Funny that you mention this. Since COVID I grew a real aversion to opinions. To that extent that I actively try to avoid having opinions myself if it's not about matters of life or death. I could elaborate, but then it would become an opinion again

 

[AdamG]

Politics, religion and now Covid. That is the Trifecta of thread closure. Good grief guys…