I don't see why we are mollycoddling brazen anti-intellectualists who refuse to engage with the research evidence already given to them to refute their points, and dismiss such evidence without being qualified to do so, or raising anything remotely as valid. I'm not sure how it is at Gearspace or whatever superficially empirical-but-actually-indulgent-of-subjective-waffle forum, but intuition and anecdotes don't fly here to refute research.
And now we have to hear them act the victims for being challenged robustly with empirical research they have clearly never encountered in their lives despite passing themselves off as "engineers".
No one has challenged the phase/transient audibility research of Lipshitz/Vanderkooy and Möller et al. linked further up this thread but seem content on referring to some ineffable quality of ATC transients beyond the effect of less room mode excitation. Not to forget the overwhelming data on directivity.
And the disingenuous shifting of goalposts that ATCs work best with a room built around them and therefore anechoic data is irrelevant. As if an evidence-based, modern design wouldn't perform better in every demonstrably psychoacoustically-relevant metric when a room is similarly built around it. Be it a KH420, 8361/8351 + optional subs, S360, M2, Kii BXT, DD 8C + subs. But somehow a provably lower amount of colouration is always "clinical" and "cold" to a fault, rather than accurate. The KH420 I heard was immensely colourful and revealing because the recordings played on it were.
And now we have to hear them act the victims for being challenged robustly with empirical research they have clearly never encountered in their lives despite passing themselves off as "engineers".
No one has challenged the phase/transient audibility research of Lipshitz/Vanderkooy and Möller et al. linked further up this thread but seem content on referring to some ineffable quality of ATC transients beyond the effect of less room mode excitation. Not to forget the overwhelming data on directivity.
And the disingenuous shifting of goalposts that ATCs work best with a room built around them and therefore anechoic data is irrelevant. As if an evidence-based, modern design wouldn't perform better in every demonstrably psychoacoustically-relevant metric when a room is similarly built around it. Be it a KH420, 8361/8351 + optional subs, S360, M2, Kii BXT, DD 8C + subs. But somehow a provably lower amount of colouration is always "clinical" and "cold" to a fault, rather than accurate. The KH420 I heard was immensely colourful and revealing because the recordings played on it were.