I don't know if it's just for sensitive listeners, but for me personally I notice that Harman curve sounds much more shouty with closed back headphones. I don't mind the bass, but the frequncies at higher mids and treble does introduce more fatigue for me on closed backs, and I usually prefer around 3 db less than harman at 2.000hz and above. With open backs I usually just put 1 db less around 1000-2000hz, and keep everything else around the same as harman.
I agree, I do the same. Using harman as a starting point, then adjust from there. I also tend to eq each headphone differently and in my opinion using the oratory eqs often have different results with every headphone that I have tried. Just noticed that in general I find the oratory eqs to be way too sharp with closed backs, while they seem fine to me with open backs.The Harman target has a number of shortcomings in terms of achieving an accurate (and also pleasing) sound in my opinion. So I understand where you are coming from on this Thoer. And use a variety of other references for the adjustments on my headphones, including the frequency responses of other headphones, and my own listening tests.