I don't understand: Both are absolutely not suitable for being used with someone side by side.Will most of your music listening time be in public, or in private?
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I don't understand: Both are absolutely not suitable for being used with someone side by side.Will most of your music listening time be in public, or in private?
My concern is about ambient noise masking the signal. It might be worth the extra do$h at home, but not on the subway or in an office.I don't understand: Both are absolutely not suitable for being used with someone side by side.
private room. I currently have a closedback headphones and curious about openback which in many reviews seems suit me.
Same: neither is suitable for the subway anyway...My concern is about ambient noise masking the signal. It might be worth the extra do$h at home, but not on the subway or in an office.
- HD 800 / 800 S without EQ? Waste of potential.Btw I hate the idea of eq. But the two I listed are all analog. And yes it does make a noticeable difference. Also the 800s is simply not portable. Just forget doing that. It’s too big. Hard to drive. Etc
I don’t know about you but I’ve only used two amps that could drive my other sennheiser well. When you throw in the substantial eq in bass i would reccomend a beefy amp. Sure you could drive it with a flea weight amp but would you? Not me.- HD 800 / 800 S without EQ? Waste of potential.
- HD 800 being hard to drive? Absolutely no. You just need a high power output rating at 300 Ohm.
(One thing to consider is you also need room for EQ. An amp that can drive these without EQ might struggle when you need +6 more gain due to EQ. FYI)
No.Is the 4.5x price difference really worth the sound quality difference?
In my opinion it comes down to personal taste. I’ve owned the HD800S (twice) and yet I still end up back on the 600 series (currently the HD660S but also enjoy the 600 and 650). Certainly the HD800S is a great headphone that has a uniquely expansive soundstage, which many find appealing. Others though, find it unusual and even distracting, and may prefer headphones that present a more conventional, intimate image (like the 600 series). This is all very subjective of course, and I would advise trying the headphones yourself if at all possible.
For regular people who just want a good pair of headphones. Get the HD6XX/Hd600 and move on.
I think you just have to try them. Odds are that you’ll like them, like a majority of people seem to. If not, they hold their resale value pretty well.I have the HD660S and I think they're great but I've read enough good things about the HD800S to convince me to see if I can try on a pair at some point. How unusual/distracting is it? Is it just that instruments are spaced out like the HD660S (which I think has great separation of instruments) only more so, or is there more than that. I use moOde with its 12 band parametric EQ with only peak filters which works wonders on the HD660S. I suppose you could rein in the spacialisation using crossfeed (although if the spacialisation is the only/main difference between the two headphones once you've EQed them then it's probably not worth the money).
Hell yes.
The HD800S are from a different planet, they make the HD600 sound like garbage, you would need to spend a ton of money to reach that level of sound from speakers, they are a bargain in the hi end world.
Hell yes.
The HD800S are from a different planet, they make the HD600 sound like garbage, you would need to spend a ton of money to reach that level of sound from speakers, they are a bargain in the hi end world.
Sundara is better all around to me. Better bass, more punchy bass, more neutral sounding. HD600 is a bit shouty to me and tamed on both ends.Thanks for all the replies everybody here, appreciated a lot!
I think I'll just go with the HD600/Sundara, an upgrade from my current Sennheiser Momentum v.1 (2013).
Maybe anyone here have the momentum v.1 and HD600/Sundara? I'm really curious how their sound's difference... Will it be a very audible upgrade since the price for those 3 are almost the same...
THE HD800/s have 300 Ohm impedance and hence both do not need a beefy amp at all (one which can deliver a lot of current to drive really difficult low impedance low sensitivity head phones). They just need more voltage than a simple amp with low supply voltage (e.g. USB powered audio interfaces without DC converters) can deliver. A simple NE5532 opamp with its two amp stages in parallel could drive one channel with ease.I don’t know about you but I’ve only used two amps that could drive my other sennheiser well. When you throw in the substantial eq in bass i would reccomend a beefy amp. Sure you could drive it with a flea weight amp but would you? Not me.