There are so many models of the Panamera. They are all very nice. Which model did you order?
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Great landscape
where is it?
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If you don't like cars, then don't own or use one. Otherwise you are off topic for the thread. If you'd like to give an accounting of the toxic waste you are responsible for and asking others do the same then maybe a new thread topic is in order. I could show the pictures of the coal plant and the nuclear plant that supply the bulk of the electricity where I live, but then I don't own an electric car. I'm still burning dino by-products.
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So anything goes? Is that it? Show me your guns or your Yemeni child bride is all okay? As long as it is in a thread for guns or child brides? (I decided not to own cars in 1986/87 since the development towards an ecological crisis was pretty clear already then, but I will leave you to it). Bye!
ICE power is still the most common available and solves most needs for drivers as compared to rechargeable cars having lotsa issues still.
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Jump to confusions much? Did you think you'd shame us car owners here? I mean billions of people own cars world wide. Not exactly controversial or something most will feel any shame about. Quick to put words into someone else's mouth and make assumptions about other topics not in evidence.
Chill, you appear to be a new member. You are welcome here, but maybe some audio topics are more fit for initial posting till you get a feel for the forum.
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Hey, there's another benefit to lightweight cars: environmental impact. All else equal, less weight makes them handle better, stop quicker, accelerate faster, use less gas, and fewer materials used in construction. Reliability means you can keep driving it for many years, not scrap it and buy a new car, which reduces your resource footprint, making it even more "green".
I think the data suggests that passenger cars aren't as bad as many people think they are. To put into perspective, passenger cars make up about 40% of transport emissions, which make up 30% of total emissions. So that's 0.4 * 0.3 = 12% of total emissions. But even that overstates things, because 90% of car emissions comes from 25% of the cars. Of course these are the old cars. So all the new cars put together (which far outnumber the old cars) make up only about 1.2% of total emissions.
For comparison, meat and dairy production account for about 15% of total greenhouse gas emissions. So if everyone stopped eating meat & dairy we'd do more to reduce emissions than banning passenger cars outright. And we'd all be healthier too.
I think the data suggests that passenger cars aren't as bad as many people think they are. To put into perspective, passenger cars make up about 40% of transport emissions, which make up 30% of total emissions. So that's 0.4 * 0.3 = 12% of total emissions. But even that overstates things, because 90% of car emissions comes from 25% of the cars. Of course these are the old cars. So all the new cars put together (which far outnumber the old cars) make up only about 1.2% of total emissions.
For comparison, meat and dairy production account for about 15% of total greenhouse gas emissions. So if everyone stopped eating meat & dairy we'd do more to reduce emissions than banning passenger cars outright. And we'd all be healthier too.
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My 2004 M3. Love this car. Ethos be
damned.
The thing that impressed me and others is how nimble the Taycan is. Partly the chassis engineering but probably mainly the very low C of G due to the layout.
It felt like a much lighter car.
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I've not driven one, but talked to a few people who have. They all say the same thing about it. The thing weighs more than 5000 lbs, but they describe it being nimble like a car of half that bulk. Low CofG does help apparently.
A Taycan Cross turismo 4S!
I considered a Panamera about 3 years ago but was disappointed by it feeling big and cumbersome.
That is from the Porsche configurator and I don't know, though the car has German registration.Great landscape
Yes, overall the best car I have driven. The instant throttle response EVs give is amazing and the chassis feels just like a 911.
I saw a video of a drag race between one and a twin turbo V8 tuned US car driven by a pro drag racer and they were convinced the Taycan jumped the lights, it was initially way faster, and won over iirc 1000 ft but was just overhauled at 1500ft.
The more expensive models pull a similar g level of acceleration to the deceleration of an emergency stop, it makes some people nauseous.
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Trouble Maker
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I honestly can't believe anyone would equate these two things, and essentially in the same sentence as cars, all on the same level of evil. That's just confusing.
I'm sure we will all welcome you if you want to contribute to any of the audio threads, otherwise, don't let the door hit you as the sayin goes. If you chose to do the former, please chose to bring more sanity and logic than the above equivalencies.
I am not sure the Taycan will be as good a track car as a 911 or 718 but as a fast road car it has everything else i have tried beat on performance, handling and comfort, and it is a 4 door estate car (station wagon)
Now I know what I thought is a new model of the Panamera are actually Taycans
... Gorgeous interior...
Ken1951
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Soul Red - one of the best colors ever! Looks great on all models. Wife's Miata is this same color.
Trouble Maker
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Awesome new car @Frank Dernie !
The rotational moment of inertia should be much lower than a similar weight ICE car too, especially compared to anything with front or rear engine.
The rotational moment of inertia should be much lower than a similar weight ICE car too, especially compared to anything with front or rear engine.
