Cahudson42
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None. Until headphones are caught up...
Good on you for using it balanced. Sounds like a sweet set-up!(using HD650's and Focal Clear's via xlr out from the Magnius). *side note* Picked up the Magnius after reading the tests and review's on here. So thank you Amir for that!
Thanks!! I really enjoy the sound. Easy to loose yourself for hours. I decided upon a full xlr set up after hearing a buddies Mackie set up years ago run entirely off a mixer via xlr. I use xlr out to the headphones depending on which one I grab. The HD650'S are a no brainer being they like the power. Other's, such as my older on ear Momentum's are perfectly fine without and no gain added (and are usually the ones I immediately grab out of convenience (whereas the Clear's.... I feel you have to take a shower before hand like I'm on a musical date) I have yet to connect up the 20 year old DT770's, but I don't doubt I'll be unhappy. Thanks again!!Good on you for using it balanced. Sounds like a sweet set-up!
because SINAD is the only thing that mattersStarts at 6600$ for SINAD at 90db. Another R2R masterpiece.
Thanks. Wasn't aware of that.because SINAD is the only thing that matters
jitter performance, quality of the output stage, type of dither, type of filter.Thanks. Wasn't aware of that.
So, what else that matters?
jitter performance, quality of the output stage, type of dither, type of filter.
No, you did not. You just think you did. Another possibility would be your preference for worse performing and colored (=inaccurate) DACs. Not that big of a deal, but don't claim it is objectively better when it's not. Assuming two DACs would have been proved to sound different, this would just mean that one is much worse than the other.I got vastly better performance switching out my E30 for an r2r NOS metrum dac
No, you did not. You just think you did.
What kind of music do you listen you? 44/48kHz material will start to roll off at 10k and be considerable by 20kHz, due to the filterless NOS design. That alone can explain your preference. But at least there *is* an explanation and not just 'organic sound', lol.Why is it that when somebody hears major undeniable differences in their equipment, folks here will try to tell you that you're dreaming it? Get off your measurements and actually go listen and ... wait for it ... use your ears??
Varies, sometimes spotify, other times Qobuz hi res files.What kind of music do you listen you? 44/48kHz material will start to roll off at 10k and be considerable by 20kHz, due to the filterless NOS design. That alone can explain your preference. But at least there *is* an explanation and not just 'organic sound', lol.
I don't know what to say. Publish a paper and become famous.I have a theory that humans can hear the effects of oversampling/dither and it is generally perceived as "digital sound", and when you remove this oversampling, suddenly things sound more natural. If you can go and demo something like a holo may, denafrips ares, or any of the metrum range, you can hear it for yourself and my hope is that I can save some people from simply believing that sinad is all that matters.
WOW. That is quite something... May I ask what is the all point of your membership, then?I am not particularly concerned with objective explanations of performance as I already know that what I am listening to is the best I have ever heard and that is all I need to know
So, I assume just haven't red my post, nor my links at all. First, nobody here thinks that only SINAD matters. That is your own extrapolation and misunderstanding.Why is it that when somebody hears major undeniable differences in their equipment, folks here will try to tell you that you're dreaming it? Get off your measurements and actually go listen and ... wait for it ... use your ears??
major undeniable differences?
I did demo holo spring actually which has a filter-off mode. I didn't notice things to be less "digital". Heck, even Zeos auditioned the holo may on youtube, he called it "just another DAC". For once I agree with ZeosIf you can go and demo something like a holo may, denafrips ares, or any of the metrum range, you can hear it for yourself and my hope is that I can save some people from simply believing that sinad is all that matters.
WOW. That is quite something... May I ask what is the all point of your membership, then?
Unless we do need some research to find out an ideal FR from DACs, in the same idea of the Harman Target for HF... My guessing is that won't happen anytime soon.I did demo holo spring actually which has a filter-off mode. I didn't notice things to be less "digital". Heck, even Zeos auditioned the holo may on youtube, he called it "just another DAC". For once I agree with Zeos
This is what putting off the filter does btw, purple line; -2dB at 14kHz, about -4dB by 20kHz. You are losing high frequency detail. Only the "sharp" filter is what can be seen as correct. The recording/mixing engineers wanted you to hear those high frequencies btw, the NOS DAC is not by any means more 'truthful'. Quite the opposite.
Lol @ using Zeos to validate your opinion. He has damaged hearing. Secondly even if he could hear differences, good luck hearing them through a 789I did demo holo spring actually which has a filter-off mode. I didn't notice things to be less "digital". Heck, even Zeos auditioned the holo may on youtube, he called it "just another DAC". For once I agree with Zeos
In order to challenge the rampant misinformation here such as when you sarcastically say "Another R2R masterpiece". Think how many readers you could be turning away from such dacs by saying this. I challenge you to go and actually listen to it and first realise why people buy such things before spouting this nonsense.
ASR on the whole has been quite dangerous to the industry. Companies are now forced to change their designs to accommodate objective parameters which can actually be quite subjectively damaging. How do you think great sinad is achieved? Nested feedback loops do not come without consequence. They kill blackground and anyone with an ear can hear it. I present another example:
Schiit started out by producing fully discrete gear such as the Magni 3+ which sounds better. Then due to shifts in consumer preferences due to this website, they were forced to release the better measuring magni heresy which actually sounds worse. As you go up the price ladder, you will notice that higher end consumers have not been infected by this philosophy because they care about what sounds good and not numbers on a page.
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Lol @ using Zeos to validate your opinion. He has damaged hearing. Secondly even if he could hear differences, good luck hearing them through a 789
Excuse me but I can't hold it any longer: Who the hell do you think you are?! You are not qualified in any shape or form to challenge anybody here. In case you've missed foundamentals: Until you have got evidences to prove the opposite, you are the one spreading misinformation. The way I see it, you are clearly victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.In order to challenge the rampant misinformation here such as when you sarcastically say "Another R2R masterpiece".
Again, I don't need your challenge: I listened to R2R/NOS DACs before you had any clue about what a DAC is.I challenge you to go and actually listen to it and first realise
Yep. For sure. And this is a very good thing as far as I'm thinking about it.ASR on the whole has been quite dangerous to the industry.
Then I would be pretty happy about that.Think how many readers you could be turning away from such dacs by saying this.
You could directly ask to Schiit, who are member here if they lose customers because of ASR.As you go up the price ladder, you will notice that higher end consumers have not been infected by this philosophy because they care about what sounds good and not numbers on a page.