Devialet Expert 200 Amplifier, DAC and Streamer Review

[Thomas savage]

I fully agree with you on this.

But wouldn't you say that here on ASR also sometimes happen that panthers are not in accordance with measurement, especially when speakers are coming from particular manufacturer which name starts with H or J?

Definitely agree with the logic , don't agree with any particular brand bias.

Amirm just has what he thinks is right.

Still don't let perfect be the enemy of good. we are not selling anything or propping up an industry.

 

[QMuse]

we are not selling anything or propping up an industry.

He maybe isn't, but you on the other hand.. All that propping of Hawain pizza, I mean there's gotta be some interest to it as nobody can have such a bad taste.

 

[RigorDude]

Gordon Holt founded the magazine to get away from this kind of 'beat-around-the-bush' mentality. Stereophile has pretty much morphed into what Gordon was attempting to get away from. That said, if it wasn't for Atkinson's measurements, you wouldn't know what to believe from most of their subjective reviews.

Interesting. I always thought Holt started Stereophile to counter what one could call the Julian Hirsch/Stereo Review Mentality - which is arguably closer to the prevailing philosophy of this forum.

My recollection is that Holt's reviews did not include measurements. I binned my old copies years ago, but the archived material on Stereophile's web site bears this out. It was when Atkinson took over as editor that they started doing thorough measurements as a complement to the subjective reviews.

To be sure, Holt did not pull punches.

 

[BDWoody]

Nice that you sent your amplifier to him!

It was on its way to me.

Hey...greater good and all.

Where's my drink...

 

[ChrisPa]

Indeed there is:-

Saveloy and chips,
Faggots and chips
Curry and chips
Jellied Eels (and chips)

There's no end to our culinary delights.

We fart in the general direction of Tournedos Rossini

S

And
Chips and mushy peas

 

[igufi]

And
Chips and mushy peas

Just follow Jesse’s diet:

 

[Thomas savage]

Definitely agree with the logic , don't agree with any particular brand bias.

Amirm just has what he thinks is right.

Still don't let perfect be the enemy of good. we are not selling anything or propping up an industry.

What can I say , these are hard times , I'm just making a living..,

JA.

 

[QMuse]

What can I say , these are hard times , I'm just making a living..,

JA.

 

[Thomas savage]

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Woody looks like he's just spent 20k on a stereophile approved French DAC then read ASR.

 

[BDWoody]

Woody looks like he's just spent 20k on a stereophile approved French DAC then read ASR.

Doesn't that hit a little close to home...!

 

[Koeitje]

Doesn't that hit a little close to home...!

Hope everything works out in the end and you don't end up looking like your avatar.

 

[Thomas savage]

Doesn't that hit a little close to home...!

Explain.

Edit..,

Oh was this a joke aimed at you being woody ..

Ha ha , excuse me I've run out of beer, that's a lie we all know I'm too smar... Dedicated for that

 

[RigorDude]

I don't understand how their ADC could distort so much in a produce this expensive. It can't even clear 15 bits of distortion-free range.

To your knowledge, is there a consumer-sector digital preamp/processor that has an analog input, enables EQ etc., and has ADC resolution 16 bits or higher, for less than $4k?

 

[BDWoody]

Hope everything works out in the end and you don't end up looking like your avatar.

Waaaaay too many years late for that...
These are the small things in any big picture... I'm glad this is my biggest disappointment this week, all things considered.

I had always thought these were very cool, and when one came up for sale by a member, I thought it would be a great chance to both have a slick new toy to play with (not that kind @Thomas savage ) and to get an often requested piece of gear in to our host for a workout worthy of something claiming SOTA, and let the chips fall where they may.

I also made it very clear to Amir, both before sending it, and after...well...after it decided to maintain radio silence until further notice, that I assume all responsibility for what might happen during that process.

I had a French girlfriend, and she did the same thing sometimes...just go silent for no good reason...so I'm hoping maybe some Roses on the piano might help.

 

[Thomas savage]

Waaaaay too late for that...
These are the small things in any big picture... I'm glad this is my biggest disappointment this week, all things considered.

I had always thought these were very cool, and when one came up for sale by a member, I thought it would be a great chance to both have a slick new toy to play with (not that kind @Thomas savage ) and to get an often requested piece of gear in to our host for a workout worthy of something claiming SOTA, and let the chips fall where they may.

I also made it very clear to Amir, both before sending it, and after...well...after it decided to maintain radio silence until further notice, that I assume all responsibility for what might happen during that process.

I had a French girlfriend, and she did the same thing sometimes...just go silent for no good reason...so I'm hoping maybe some Roses on the piano might help.

If that's the worst that happened you got the light side of France .

 

[BDWoody]

If that's the worst that happened you got the light side of France .

Cost of education.

I've saved much much more than that from this site...so if it helps anyone...

i am setting up a go-fund-me...

/s

 

[Matias]

Cost of education.

I've saved much much more than that from this site...so if it helps anyone...

i am setting up a go-fund-me...

/s

You'll sell it again on Audiogon, many just don't care how it measures.

 

[BDWoody]

You'll sell it again on Audiogon, many just don't care how it measures.

Right now, it is a brick, so...might need to measure better than that.

 

[RigorDude]

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...nts-of-minidsp-shd-dac-dsp-and-streamer.4286/

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...f-rme-adi-2-pro-comparison-to-adi-2-dac.2682/

~$1100 seems to be the going rate for a state-of-the-art one.

Thanks for these suggestions. At the risk of being nit-picky, I see that Amir's reviews do not assess ADC performance. I'm not prepared to spend $1,100, let alone $2k, only to end up with an ADC that may or may not degrade a CD-quality input. What is the basis for the statement that they are state of the art?

For some time, I've been hunting for a digital processor with analog inputs that actually tests out to the claimed specification and is not crazy expensive. Wish it weren't so. I'd love to experiment with digital EQ.

 

[amirm]

Thanks for these suggestions. At the risk of being nit-picky, I see that Amir's reviews do not assess ADC performance. I'm not prepared to spend $1,100, let alone $2k, only to end up with an ADC that may or may not degrade a CD-quality input. What is the basis for the statement that they are state of the art?

There are separate review threads on their ADC performance. I am about to post another interface review and will show the latest rankings for all the ones I have tested.